[coraliecotton]

hi, can anyone relate to this feeling/symptom. i get this overpowering feeling of shame or guilt. this is unrelated to anything i've actually done. it's more than a surface feeling but a real deep dark powerful primitive feeling deep in the solar plexus. it makes me feel full of grief and i just can't figure out the feeling. it's almost like the feeling you might have if you have had a dream where you have done or experienced something very disturbing or crossed a line that theres no going back from and then you wake up and the feeling is still there and you can't quite shake it even though you know it's a dream. what is this?? can anyone remotely relate

 

[Scattered]

I'm not sure if I can relate to it according to the way that you describe it. However, shame and guilt are an essential part of my DP. The difference is that my shame and guilt come from the ways I have acted in the past. The knowledge that if I had acted differently in the past I wouldn't be experiencing anxiety/DP/DR is often very painful.

 

[Lilymoonchild]

I wouldn't say I have completely unfounded guilt, but a lot of the guilt I experience is related to religion, and even though I've worked through a lot of the feelings that go with it, occassionally I still feel overwhelming guilt and shame with no specific reason behind it. Guilt sucks.

 

[peaceboy23]

YES! I have so much guilt and shame in me that it's absurd. I feel guilty about pushing my mom's arm off my shoulder when I ws like eight years old and mad at her, or yelling at her when I was ten or eleven. I feel guilty about storming out after an argument with my dad, yelling at him. I feel guilt about so many things in my life that are really not all that important, and I think that is a BIG issue with me, a BIG problem in my anxiety and dp/dr. I also feel guilty over being guilty. Strange... :shock:

 

[Da'Burgh]

This is common within the depths of DP, it's a feeling of hopelessness, a feeling of doom. When this feeling occurs it almost seems like nothing will help and it will never end or become better. The only thing to do is not dwell on this. Keep going and don't make it worse. This really is an anxiety/depression feeling as depersonalization and derealization are symptoms of them.

 

[coco33]

I feel gulity at just about everything i do. If i dont water a plant i feel guilty, if i feel i havent talked to my kids enough that day i feel gulity. It drives me crazy.

I was a Christian for a while but that me my guilty feeling even worse, i found myself focusing too much on asking forgiving for things i did in the past or present and asking forgiving that i was making myself worse by constantly thinking of things to ask forgivness for. Dont get me wrong i am fully aware that you are supposed to pass your worries to God and he will help you to deal with them but it just wasnt working out that way for me, so i had to opt out of that for the time being.

I do find that when i do feel guilty and dwell on it my DP seems to get worse ............ its one visious cycle.

 

[Martinelv]

I'm sure it must be even worse when you feel guilty when you actually don't have anything to be guilty about ! Jesus.

I'm riddled with guilt, for just about everything. I'd say the majority of my guilt is properly legitamised...so I can't moan about it.

 

[samantha]

I have feelings of guilt, which are related to the hopeless position I often feel I am in. Not being able to cope with everyday situations is stressful and seeing other people just moving effortlessly through life leaves me feeling guilty.

Sam

 

[Guest]

I am constantly beset by feelings of guilt. I can also relate to peaceboy23's guilty feelings over minor childhood transgressions. For example, I remember saying something rude to my mom and hurting her feelings when I was ten and it makes me feel guilty now. In fact, I feel guilty anytime I feel like I may have wronged somebody and I'll obsess over it for a day or two. I'm new to learning about DP and I'm curious to know if and how this ties in.

The most intense guilt I feel is over who I am. I feel that my outward emotions and kindness to others is a sham and that I am in fact devoid of caring about anything. I feel guilty that I may not actually love anybody and that all of my relationships, including my marriage, are built on deceit.

Gabriel
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[Sojourner]

Guilt is a wonderful thing! It's our conscience letting us know we are alive and well as people who really do care about other people. Feeling guilt is an invitation to feeling absolutely magnificent! Try and then tell me I'm full of it, okay?

It's never too late to apologize to your parent for something you did as a child. Never too late.

Kiss your guilt goodbye, but thank God for it, too, because it gives you a method by which you can let go of old stuff that you beat yourself over the head with and perhaps make that other person feel good, too. It will haunt you until you finally get the message.

It's like someone getting inside your head and saying, "I'd like to do something really nice for you that will make you and at least one other person in the universe feel really glad to be alive" and you are saying, "Get the fcuk outta my face, you pig."

You should feel verrrrrry guilty about doing that!!! :lol:

 

[Sojourner]

"The most intense guilt I feel is over who I am. I feel that my outward emotions and kindness to others is a sham and that I am in fact devoid of caring about anything. I feel guilty that I may not actually love anybody and that all of my relationships, including my marriage, are built on deceit."

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Is that true, or do you just FEEL that way sometimes?

Also, what do you mean by "caring" and "love"? These things change over the course of our lives. An 18-year-old has a quite different experience of "caring" than a 45-year-old. Same with "love."

 

[Martinelv]

It's never too late to apologize to your parent for something you did as a child. Never too late.

:roll:

Sojourner, I swear, you are getting preachier by the day. Keep it up old chap ! With time, the top of your head will pop open and a pink elephant will jump out. I'll even carve you your own pulpit out of my marrow.

 

[Sojourner]

Martinelv said:

"Sojourner, I swear, you are getting preachier by the day. Keep it up old chap ! With time, the top of your head will pop open and a pink elephant will jump out. I'll even carve you your own pulpit out of my marrow."

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There was nothing "preachy" about what I said. Many people know the joy of putting down the load of guilt they carry -- whether it is deservedly carried or not doesn't matter because they ARE carrying it and suffering from the stress of it -- and reconciling with others.

I believe one hasn't really lived unless one has experienced the joy of seeking and receiving forgiveness as well as the joy of giving forgiveness to another hurting soul.

And as far as your not having faith, you are kidding yourself. If you didn't have faith, you could not take the risks you take in your daily life -- something as simple as sitting in a chair. You are able to do that only because you DO have faith. You also rail too assiduously against God, which is a very clear signal that you in fact DO believe in Him, but you are supremely angry with Him.

Don't waste your precious breath trying to shut me up by insulting me or wishing all manner of evil to befall me, such as my head popping open. It's unbecoming for a man of your intelligence and wit.

 

[Martinelv]

There was nothing "preachy" about what I said. Many people know the joy of putting down the load of guilt they carry -- whether it is deservedly carried or not doesn't matter because they ARE carrying it and suffering from the stress of it -- and reconciling with others.

Pardon ? That is in direct contradiction to what you said earlier.

I believe one hasn't really lived unless one has experienced the joy of seeking and receiving forgiveness as well as the joy of giving forgiveness to another hurting soul.

This isn't preachy ?

And as far as your not having faith, you are kidding yourself. If you didn't have faith, you could not take the risks you take in your daily life -- something as simple as sitting in a chair. You are able to do that only because you DO have faith

Oh dear. Here we go again. I know I shouldn't waste my precious breath on this.....but anywho. You are implying that I need faith in god/s to carry out my.......oh forget it.......it's boring.

You also rail too assiduously against God, which is a very clear signal that you in fact DO believe in Him, but you are supremely angry with Him

How can I be angry at something I lack the belief in? :?

Don't waste your precious breath trying to shut me up by insulting me or wishing all manner of evil to befall me, such as my head popping open

I'm not trying to shut you up at all, and it's tough poo if you think you are being insulted everytime someone disagrees with you. However I encourage all uniformed commentry.