[Guest]

Hi everyone,

I had a DP experience on July 27, 2003. I will never forget that date. The DP I had was part of a manic episode (I am bi-polar). The DP was frightening as I felt like I had little direct control over my "self" and my body, but was strangely intoxicating as well. It was an amazing experience, to be a "soul" as it were, observing myself and the world as if from outside my own body.

It has been on my mind almost daily since it happened, and I have a strong attraction towards experiencing it again. I feel it somehow ties into my religious development (I am currently agnostic), and I think if I repeat it, perhaps even remaining in that DP state, I will have attained some sort of religious "realization" of myself and my relation to God (if He exists).

In that vein, I am considering starting meditation, as a controlled way to attain this state. Does anyone have experience with this, is DP and "enlightenment" connected? Thank you for your opinions.

Joseph

 

[terri*]

Can I be the first to say...Are you serious :?: :?: :?:

terri*

 

[Guest]

Yes, I am sincere and serious. In my view, for me anyway, my state of consciousness in DP may be a new form of awareness, an evolution, as it were, of the human mind.
It is a bold experiment, I must admit, and perhaps a dangerous one. That is why I am intending to approach it in a way that is as controlled and scientific as possible.
I don't have any answers right now, only questions. But I will keep you posted.

 

[Guest]

his mania mixed with dp probably gives him a pretty good high. Terri you have dp without mania so no fun for you.

 

[Guest]

Well, I don't disagree with you. When I first got it, I did consider it an enlightened state, because so much which was prior unknown to me just came out so suddenly and I saw the world with a whole new shade of sunglasses from there on. But I've been pondering into enlightenment recently, and I can tell you, dp in its disorder form is no enlightenment. It is an inch below a roof's ceiling, and on top of that roof is enlightenment. It's right there for the taking if more can be realized, more velocity can be applied to it, more calmness may be attained. DP isn't necessarily like enlightenment at all. Englightenment gives you all knowledge, but all absolute calmness at the same time. I've reached states before in which I felt truly enlightened, but only after suppressing/getting rid of temporarily the horrible effects of DP, such as the constant paranoia about reality being what it is or isn't. But it does help severely to reach enlightenment if you can take good control of DP, good control of reality and not go insane about it. To be honest, I never thought DP was any sort of bad thing until I found out it had a name with "disorder" slapped onto the back. I just thought of it as a new plateau in human thought.

 

[Guest]

What does enlightenment mean to you, the biggest possible high you could get without using drugs ?

 

[Guest]

Enlightenment means being perfectly content with the world and reality and existence, realizing it all in its wholeness comfortably, and simply knowing things without having to think. I've reached states like this before, twice only actually, but I don't doubt I could do it again if I really wanted. But hey, I'm getting lazy about life lately.

 

[Guest]

No, DP for me is not really a "high". It was (and may be again, if I pursue it via meditation) a different state of consciousness, an altered state of awareness of self and of the world. So, if this is a new state of human evolution I feel it is exciting to possibly be a part of it.
During my DP I was able to predict small things happening before they did. Imagine if I sustain a DP-state and am able to cultivate that ability to predict larger things? The whole idea of very interesting to me.
Not to devalue anyone else's problems with DP, I do understand that many view it as a problem and an illness, which it may well be. But I see it as potentially a fantastic discovery, and I will let you know what I discover.

 

[kenc127]

Hey Joseph,

I will gladly trade you my DP and all the money in my bank account for your lack of DP.

Ken

 

[Guest]

I am truly sorry if DP is not a pleasant experience for you, or anyone here. It is not my intention to diminish the anguish people may experience from DP. I may be opening Pandora's box by pursuing it, I know that. But I hope that by doing it slowly through meditation, and not via a manic episode, I will be able to determine if this is something I want in my life. If this is a possible new state of consciousness it is something I think I would like to be a part of.

 

[Guest]

i dont know how long you have had it the first time but my personal belief is that its not something you will enjoy living with on a daily basis

 

[Guest]

this dud needs to be banned.....revelation??

 

[gem]

truly very sad.

gem.

 

[terri*]

Joseph...I'm thinking you need to be on an enlightment site. Seriously. I just can't see that this group, well except for maybe Musashi who is also enlightened by this, is really going to be able to help you transcend onto your next level.

Opening Pandora's Box ? Are you kidding me? You have given me major anxiety just thinking about someone wanting to be the way most of us here are, on purpose. :shock: It's just not the same thing. You need some kind of dahli lama, holy man, new age guru, Shirley McLaine type, who is going to enjoy taking you on this little trip you desire.

Joseph, if this is possibly a new state of consciousness ... you're gonna want to high tail your ass out of here as quick as possible because there is nothing beautiful, transcending or etheral about it.

Just my very humble opinion and meant with no disrespect. I am, of course, going on the assumption that you are being respectful to a large group of people that are fighting and clawing their way out of this hell you are so eagerly seeking as it does not cause you any problem.

Utah, I have DR without mania and you're right...no fun for me.

Holy Moly. :shock:

terri*

 

[enigma]

jstewnyc wrote:

It has been on my mind almost daily since it happened, and I have a strong attraction towards experiencing it again.

Come and play with us, Joseph. Come and play with us. Forever...and ever...and ever :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

 

[gem]

trying to post on this but cannot seem to do so. Have wrote the post six times.

gem.

 

[kenc127]

Why do I suddenly feel like damn lab rat being examined?

 

[sebastian]

jstewnyc wrote:

It has been on my mind almost daily since it happened, and I have a strong attraction towards experiencing it again.

Come and play with us, Joseph. Come and play with us. Forever...and ever...and ever :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

hahaha...that's too funny...

 

[terri*]

I don't know Ken...was it something you ate? :lol:

Sorry, just feeling a little froggy.

terri*

 

[terri*]

If it wasn't kind of like one of those scarey movie, whispered things...it would be pretty damn funny enigma. lol.