[Isobel]

I think this has been posted somewhere before, but my head is tooo Mashed to think where..... :roll:

Does anyone else experience like electric jolts in their haed when going to sleep? I ve had the jolts in my body..... few different sensations , but its the ones in my head that bother me most. Does anyone else get these?
Anyone know why they happen?

:shock:

 

[Inflammed]

I know that anti-depressant have this as side-effects.
But I have some of them very often, I think it's the nerves in the back of the head...anything that feels *electric* are nerve related.
I know it's very annoying but this shall pass over time.
I once had them so strong and frequent that I could not even lay down...

 

[Guest]

I know that anti-depressant have this as side-effects.
But I have some of them very often, I think it's the nerves in the back of the head...anything that feels *electric* are nerve related.
I know it's very annoying but this shall pass over time.
I once had them so strong and frequent that I could not even lay down...

IT'S THE "PERPS"!!!
No. Anti-depressant side-effects.

Stress, too.

I get a side effect... I forget the name of it... where my LEG jerks up after sitting in a chair too long etc.
It looks a little epileptic... I think it's sitting still that does it, always my RIGHT legg too...
I got severe HEAD PAIN, electric etc etc feelings AFTER coming off, long-term anti-depressants... it was like radiation. It drained me in a new kinda wayy...

 

[Inflammed]

What's PERPS ?

I'm just a French Canadian :shock:

 

[Isobel]

Erm yeah, Ghost,

Whats PERPS?

:lol:

Thanks, Inflammed, no not on AD's . i heard they can cause this, though

xxxx

 

[Guest]

The PERPS is a conspiracy that Govt agents "radiate" people through the WALLS OF THEIR HOME using sattelites.

I fell into this.. mainly because Doctors told me that coming off Psych drugs had no side-effects. If they would have TOLD ME that horrific side-effects were to be expected I wouldn't have exhibited such highly paranoid behaviours about the SOURCE of my horrific head paiyn.

I think it's the nerves in the back of the head

That's the "occipital" region..Where there's some nerves for your eyes. Are you very visual, "inflammed"?

I get SEVERE headaches in my occipital region. I have to sleep half the day, I vomit too. Severe pain in my neck, all the muscles tense up to all FUCK

but my head is tooo Mashed to think

I'm feelin' that.

Does anyone else experience like electric jolts in their haed when going to sleep? I ve had the jolts in my body..... few different sensations , but its the ones in my head that bother me most. Does anyone else get these?
Anyone know why they happen?

You're tense, and you've got too much on your mind. Relax and distract yourself.
You must get VERY tense to get such badd nervous system representations.

DAMMIT, I've gone "back" to wasting ENERGY on peeple...

 

[Inflammed]

I'm too visual :shock:

Anything changing regarding my sight like, dim-lights, day or night, point of view changes, rainy days, they all affect so much my DP/DR (DR mainly)

When I get strong DP/DR or anxiety...all colours seems to faint, they all become brighter (more light in them) and less colored...thats a weird effect...feels like that famous 2 seconds before you faint.

 

[Guest]

I'm too visual :shock:

Anything changing regarding my sight like, dim-lights, day or night, point of view changes, rainy days, they all affect so much my DP/DR (DR mainly)

When I get strong DP/DR or anxiety...all colours seems too faint, they all become brighter (more light in them) and less colored...thats a weird effect...feels like that famous 2 seconds before you faint.

Disoriented.

That sounds "neurological"...

I wanna get that bowel cleanse thing from the health food store...
I hear that toxin, acid/stress build up in your gut sends toxins REELING into your braiyn...

It sounds like you get "lowered states of consciousness" inflammed. urh.

Gross.

I think you've got sensory perception, overload problems, like your "sense of SIGHT" gets very, very FLOODED. Flooded with input.

Maybe...Do a miynd trick.

Next time you're in public, and your eyes are goin' crazy, "block" your hearing, just say mentally "I cant hear you, I'm not listening", or FOCUS on your vocal chords..You might be in a "dim/BRIGHT" room TALKING TO SOMEONE focus on your vocal chords...Just imagine, your "centre of awareness" (for sense of self), is your vocal chords, focus on ONE "element" of yourself, reduce sensory DISTRACTIONS. It's like meditation, to BLOCK OFF sensory stimuluss...

Instead of DEEP BREATHING to "calm" your nervez..Try SHUTTING DOWN some of your "stimulus" so your sensory centres in your brain arn't as STIMULATED (Jeez)!

I do that. Dunno y.

I "block" my ears by focussing on a repeated phrase and "drowning" ONE area of stimulus seems to block sensory overload/Panic.

I "focus" on just my vocal chords as my "sense of awareness" while I function, and it shuts off sensory overload, while I talk to peeple on the phone...

It sounds like my nervous system is a well-lit up CHRISTMAS TREE doesn't it! it izz...

I hate "deep breathing" exercises..drives me crazy..I'm TOO TENSE to "breathe" through PANIC. I'm like a big bunged up ball

 

[Inflammed]

Lowered states of consciousness, exactly.

But the fact is that I'm in benzo withdrawal since 8 months and this is causing me much troubles like the ones above.

It often feels more like blood pressure drops...
I'm standing up and suddenly I feel my brain going down to my feet...that's a pretty freaky feeling...

 

[nemesis]

Hi Isobel. I'm not taking any meds at the moment, and havent for the last 2 years (SSRIs). I sometimes get the electric shocks you speak of just before drifting off to sleep. I'll be about to transition into the REM dream state when I will suddenly be snapped into full wakeness by a bolt that consumes my entire head and then runs down my spine, sometimes make a leg jolt as well. Its quite frightening, but apparently quite common in those that are both stressed and lacking sleep.

 

[Guest]

Hi Isobel. I'm not taking any meds at the moment, and havent for the last 2 years (SSRIs). I sometimes get the electric shocks you speak of just before drifting off to sleep. I'll be about to transition into the REM dream state when I will suddenly be snapped into full wakeness by a bolt that consumes my entire head and then runs down my spine, sometimes make a leg jolt as well. Its quite frightening, but apparently quite common in those that are both stressed and lacking sleep.

It's the PERPS.

 

[Guest]

Lowered states of consciousness, exactly.

But the fact is that I'm in benzo withdrawal since 8 months and this is causing me much troubles like the ones above.

It often feels more like blood pressure drops...
I'm standing up and suddenly I feel my brain going down to my feet...that's a pretty freaky feeling...

What's benzo withdrawal?

I get on the phone to people and get
VERY sudden (and massive) drops in consciousness.

I was screaming at someone once...
And all of a sudden, my "blood pressure in my head" (or something) dropped.
My anger fell away from my voice, my speech lost volume. The triumphant person hung up - I failed.
It was beyond my control. It was like my brain "ran out of juice" (Abruptly).

I'm "aware" that the drugs have caused it, and that SEROTONIN manipulation, is stronger in effect that Dopamine manipulation.
I think this is permanent, my brain has had PLENTY of time to swing back to FULL FUNCTION.

My brain feels.. Like it was once a fuzzy animal fur and now it's been turned into LEATHER, tight useless mummified.
My brain feels dipped in bleach. C'mon I stopped Anti-psychotics in March 2003, and Anti-depressants in September 2003, you've got to be KIDDING me. This aint good enough, why do "THEY" keep telling me that the levels just "swing back to normal" within a few months, and that there's NO long-term damage... ?

Are they "lying".. perhaps, or am I PARANOID & DELUSIONAL? This is where honesty would actually make me less Psychotic ( )

 

[Inflammed]

What's benzo withdrawal?

I get on the phone to people and get
VERY sudden (and massive) drops in consciousness.

I was screaming at someone once...
And all of a sudden, my "blood pressure in my head" (or something) dropped.
My anger fell away from my voice, my speech lost volume. The triumphant person hung up - I failed.
It was beyond my control. It was like my brain "ran out of juice" (Abruptly).

Benzo withdrawal...I took Xanax for 3 months, then stopped and still having some withdrawal symptoms after 8 months after stopping...like heart palpitation, blood pressure drops, anxiety, DR, DP, unability to stand up, walk or sleep...an on and on.

PS : DP/DR to me is funny, even great compared to benzo withdrawal symptoms...there is actually a 3 pages of symptoms for benzo w/d ghost...
I have been having DP/DR and anxiety for 10 years now...and I never tought something worst existed....I was wrong...there was and I fell.

Your description above...what's that ? Or who had that...caus' they're the exact same feelings (impressions) I have...

 

[Inflammed]

Is your DP/DR drug (street drugs) induce Ghost ?

 

[Guest]

Is your DP/DR drug (street drugs) induce Ghost ?

YEAH!..
I'm a big.. DRUGG USER!

No. It's Mother induced, unfortunately. (See dreamers website, same dealio).

unability to.. walk

Ohh.. That aint nice. That aint nice, at ALL. Nope I dont like that.
That's CNS failure, dont like that.. nope

I.. get VERY sudden (and massive) drops in consciousness.

..all of a sudden, my "blood pressure in my head" (or something) dropped. My anger fell away from my voice, my speech lost volume.

It was beyond my control. It was like my brain "ran out of juice" (Abruptly).

My brain feels.. Like it was once a fuzzy animal fur and now it's been turned into LEATHER, tight useless mummified.
My brain feels dipped in bleach.

This refers to me. As stated I was weaned off Anti-psychotics by March LAST YEAR.
and Anti-depressants were weaned by Sept LAST YEAR.

I'd been on them both for 9 years. In 2001 all symptoms of "Schizophrenia" DISAPPEARED and three years later I asked to come off tablets.

WELCOME TO HELL

 

[Inflammed]

Those brain drops could really be withdrawal from the drugs you used to take Ghost.

I had some brain drops and all the hellish brain related symptoms before...but now it's way worst since I took and stopped taking benzo's and SSRI's.
I know people that have stopped SSRI's for more than 3 years and still have some withdrawal symptoms...have a look here Ghost...

http://www.benzo.org.uk

I like the way you write...(express yourself)
I'm still trying to learn my english =)

 

[Guest]

Those brain drops could really be withdrawal from the drugs you used to take Ghost.

I had some brain drops and all the hellish brain related symptoms before...but now it's way worst since I took and stopped taking benzo's and SSRI's.
I know people that have stopped SSRI's for more than 3 years and still have some withdrawal symptoms...have a look here Ghost...

http://www.benzo.org.uk

I like the way you write...(express yourself)
I'm still trying to learn my english =)

English SUCKS, WE ALL SUCK *I'm gonna BLOWW MI BRAIYN'S OUTT*
:!:

Interesting.. YOU "claim" that STREET DRUGS have LESS symptoms than BENZO'S AND SSRI's (during withdrawal).. Interesting.

*scratches chin in contemplation*

 

[Guest]

Benzodiazepine Symptoms List

More Symptoms Lists

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1. ACUTE
2. PROTRACTED
3. PARADOXICAL
4. TOLERANCE EFFECTS (including toxicity)
5. SIDE EFFECTS
6. CATEGORIES OF SYMPTOMS

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1. ACUTE:

- aggression
- anxiety
- agoraphobia
- apathy
- ataxia
- breathlessness
- chest discomfort and tightness
- choking
- constipation
- convulsions (muscle usually)
- dental pain
- depersonalisation
- depression
- derealisation
- diarrhoea
- distortion of body image, misperceptions
- dry, itchy skin
- "electric shock" feelings throughout the body
- dysphoria
- excitability
- fasciculations
- flushing
- formications
- head sensations
- heart palpitations
- hyperacusis
- hypersensitivity to stimuli
- hyperosmia (sensitive sense of smell)
- hyperpyrexia (overheating)
- hyperventilation (overbreathing)
- insomnia
- intrusive thoughts
- irrational rage
- irritability
- jumpiness
- metallic taste
- nausea
- nightmares
- obsessions
- panic attacks
- perceptual disturbances and distortions
- photosensitivity
- psychotic symptoms (usually transient and
confined to rapid withdrawal)
- restlessness
- seizures (on abrupt discontinuation)
- sensory disruption
- scalp burning
- sore tongue
- sweating, night sweats
- tinnitus
- tremor
- vomiting
- weakness, "jelly legs"
- weight gain
- weight loss (this may be quite rapid)

Cold Turkey
Symptoms usually confined to 'cold turkey' or rapid
withdrawal from high doses of benzodiazepines:

- confusion
- delirium
- fits
- hallucinations
- psychotic symptoms
- seizures

2. PROTRACTED:

- abnormal muscle tone
- anxiety
- aching joints
- ataxia
- allergic reactions
- back pain
- blepharospasm (eye twitching)
- breast pain
- apathy
- constipation (often alternating with diarrhoea)
- cravings
- dehydration
- dental pain
- depersonalisation
- depression
- derealisation
- diarrhoea (often alternating with constipation)
- dry, tickly cough
- dysphagia
- fluctuations in blood pressure
- "electric shock" feelings throughout the body
- fasciculations
- formication (sensation of bugs crawling over skin)
- gait disturbance (the ground seems to move underfoot)
- gastritis
- glassy eyes
- hair loss
- heartburn
- heart palpitations
- heavy flu-like symptoms
- hyperacusis
- hyperaesthesia (sensitivity to stimuli)
- hyperosmia
- insomnia
- iris colour changes
- kakosmia
- joint pains
- leukonychea (whitening of nails)
- libidinal changes
- malabsorption
- menstrual irregularity
- muscular cramps
- muscular rigidity
- muscular spasms
- muscular (and bone) weakness
- myoclonic convulsions (muscle/nerve spasms)
- nausea
- neurological problems (topical nerve anaesthesia)
- nose bleeds
- oedema (especially of ankles and face)
- oesophagitis
- paraesthesiae (numbing, burning and tingling; pins and needles)
- poor concentration
- poor short-term memory
- perspiring, night sweats
- severe headaches
- sinusitis
- skin insensitivity
- sore, itchy eyes
- spine (burning sensation)
- stomach cramps
- thirst
- thrush-like symptoms
- tremor
- tinnitus (ear buzzing, popping, ringing, hissing)
- tiny pupils
- urinary problems (bladder either 'all on' or 'all off')
- vertigo
- visual disturbances (blurred, double, vivid)
- vomiting
- water retention

3. PARADOXICAL:

- acute hyperexcited state
- agitation
- aggressive behaviour
- anxiety
- breathlessness
- excitability
- fear
- hallucinations
- hostility
- hyperactivity
- increased muscle spasticity
- irrational rage
- insomnia
- nervousness
- nightmares, vivid dreams
- phobias
- rage
- restlessness
- restless legs, arms
- sleep disturbances
- tension
- tremor
- panic attacks

4. TOLERANCE EFFECTS (including toxicity):

- anxiety
- apnea (night)
- breathlessness
- dyspnea (breathing problems)
- fibrositis
- fatigue
- gait disturbance
- impotence
- leaden heaviness
- lethargy
- libido disturbances
- loss of self-confidence
- menstrual irregularity
- neurological problems
- panic attacks
- phobias
- severe muscle rigidity
- short-term memory impairment
- vasovagal attacks
- vertigo

5. SIDE EFFECTS:

- abnormal behaviour or false beliefs
- aches and pains (muscle tension)
- aggressiveness
- agitation
- agoraphobia and claustrophobia
- anger
- anti-social behaviour
- apathy
- ataxia
- blood disorders (resulting in severe tiredness
and possible infections)
- blurred vision
- bradycardia (slow heartbeat/pulse)
- breast enlargement
- changes in appetite
- changes in libido
- changes in salivation
- chemical sensitivities, allergies
- cognitive impairment
- confusion
- daytime drowsiness
- depression
- diarrhoea and constipation
- diplopia
- dizziness
- dry, itchy skin
- dysarthria
- dysphoria
- emotional blunting
- exhaustion
- fatigue
- feeling afraid
- feeling unreal
- feelings of anger and anxiety
- flu-like symptoms
- hair loss
- hallucinations
- headaches
- hypotension
- IBS (Irritable Bowel Syndrome)
- inability to pass urine/holding of urine in the bladder
- impairment of motor co-ordination
- incontinence
- insomnia
- irritability
- jaundice
- jaw pains
- lack of concentration
- lack of confidence
- lethargy
- many people wonder why they have changed from being happy
and outgoing, to being over-anxious and unconfident
- memory loss or forgetfulness
- mild hypertension
- muscle weakness, spasticity, cramps, abnormal tone
- nausea
- nightmares
- numbed emotions
- oedema
- panic attacks
- personality changes
- poor muscle control
- problems with vision
- psychomotor impairment
- rashes
- reduced alertness
- reduced blood pressure
- restlessness
- shivering
- skin problems, rashes
- sleep problems
- slurred speech
- stomach and bowel problems
- stomach upsets
- suicidal behaviour
- thyroid disturbances
- tolerance
- tremor
- urinary retention
- vertigo
- violence
- water retention
- weight gain
- xeroderma (dry skin)

6. CATEGORIES OF SYMPTOMS:

CARDIOVASCULAR:

Fluctuations in blood pressure
Mild hypertension
Shivering, feelings of extreme cold or hot
Heart palpitations

DERMATOLOGICAL:

Allergic reactions
Chemical sensitivities
Dry, itchy skin
Dry throat, sore tongue, and thrush
Formications (sensation of crawling on skin)
Glassy eyes
Hair loss
Leukonychea (whitening of nails)
Nosebleeds
Oedema
Paraesthesiae (numbness, tingling)
Perspiring, night sweats
Rashes, blotches

GASTROINTESTINAL:

Bladder incontinence
Constipation (sometimes alternating with diarrhoea)
Diarrhoea
Dyspepsia (indigestion)
Gastritis
Heartburn
Nausea
Oesophagitis
Stomach cramps

GENITOURINARY:

Impotence
Libido disturbances
Menstrual irregularities
urinary problems (continence or incontinence)
Encopressia (faecal incontinence)

MUSCULOSKELETAL:

Aching joints
Blepharospasm (eye twitches)
Formication (sensations of bugs crawling on skin)
Gait disturbance
Jaw, tooth, neck and shoulder pain
Muscle wasting
Muscle spasms
Rapid weight loss
Severe headaches
Severe muscle rigidity
Tremor or feeling of inner vibration
Vertigo

NEUROLOGICAL:

Blurred vision, seeing spots, flashes, vivid vision
Bruxism (teeth grinding)
Dysphagia (difficulty eating or swallowing)
Electric shock feelings
Fatigue, leaden heaviness
Hypersensitivity to light, sound, and other stimuli
Neurological problems (e.g. topical anaesthesia)
Severe muscle rigidity
Speech difficulty
Thirst
Tinnitus (ear buzzing, popping, ringing, hissing)
Tiny pupils
Tremor

PARADOXICAL:

Agitation
Aggressive behaviour anxiety
Breathlessness
Excitability
Fear
Hostility
Hyperactivity
Irrational rage
Insomnia
Nervousness
Nightmares, vivid dreams
Phobias
Restlessness

PSYCHIATRIC:

Apathy
Anxiety
Delirium
Depersonalisation
Depression
Derealisation
Distortions or hallucinations
Dysphoria (inability to feel pleasure or happiness)
Fear
Hyperventilation
Hyperreflexia (?jumpiness?)
Hypnologic hallucinations sleepwalking)
Lack of concentration
Nightmares
Obsessions
Paranoia
Phobias (hydrophobia, agoraphobia, monophobia,
acrophobia, anthropophobia and others)
Rapid mood changes
Suicidal thoughts
Short-term memory impairment

RESPIRATORY:

Breathlessness
Choking
Dry, tickly cough
Dyspnea (breathing difficulty)
Hyperventilation (overbreathing)
Inability to draw satisfying breath
Night apnea
Sinusitis

WOW

 

[Guest]

PSYCHIATRIC:

Apathy
Anxiety
Delirium
Depersonalisation
Depression
Derealisation
Distortions or hallucinations
Dysphoria (inability to feel pleasure or happiness)
Fear
Hyperventilation
Hyperreflexia (?jumpiness?)
Hypnologic hallucinations (sleepwalking)
Lack of concentration
Nightmares
Obsessions
Paranoia
Phobias (hydrophobia, agoraphobia, monophobia,
acrophobia, anthropophobia and others)
Rapid mood changes
Suicidal thoughts
Short-term memory impairment
Why do they say that coming off Anti-psychotics & Anti-depressants HAS NO SIDE-EFFECTS AT ALL???
DOCTORS SUCKK

 

[Inflammed]

Hehe, now we're having fun Ghost !

I passed all imaginable tests, heart, lungs, brain-scans, all neuro tests.
We all know the results of those tests...
I'm supposed to be able to run 100miles per day...
But the reality is that I can't even run 1

I almost had all those symptoms...somtimes so many at the same time.
Had 1 heart palpitation every 30 seconds for 1 week at some point...I relly tought my heart was going to stop somehow...and that was the same week I want able to stand up or walk...I found out what Terror was.

I feel like a labotory rat...

Well, I'm at work now...so later.
Don't rake care...it might be our solution.