[Guest]

DP or DR ?​

I think I have DP only	13	18.06%
I think I have DR only	16	22.22%
I think I have DP and DR	43	59.72%

 

[Guest]

do you have DP or DR or both?

 

[bat]

i get both but find dp much worse than dr

 

[Guest]

i get both but find dp much worse than dr

HaHa. Is that because DP is "exposing", nowhere to run, more emotions?

I started to piece together the problem with my head,
when under hypnotherapy I got "thought" back in my head...
It had been 21 years of a blank head!

Stupid therapist panicked. He thought He'd stuffed up, He got angry too,
Because I slowed down and got more centred. I didn't "reply in full" as was His want... He freaked me out back into DP.
21 years, nevermind. I'm tough. Poor therapist. I'm sure the "anger" display was just my deluded imagination. Enough to "snap" me back out... Lovely man

I found out later. That what I'd had while back in my head was DR. I felt like I was sitting at the back of my head in an armchair, the dude got about 10 times further away from me. The active thought in the front of my head (at last) was a booming version of the trickle at the back of my head that is my lost self-expression.
I couldn't get up either. My body was a void. I was stuck in the chair...
Trapped, me and an angry guy.

Thought at last!...for about 3 minutes. But I dont want to be a COMPLAINER!!! I'm sure my therapist was trying His ETHICAL best.

I found out later, that after 21 years re-gaining THOUGHT IN MY HEAD was actually DR of my head & neck and DP of my body...

Therapist disharged me from care the next week... He said I didn't want to get well. Jeez, I'm naughty... I deserve to be punished.

 

[bat]

no because dp is the horror of death. of self.

 

[Guest]

no because dp is the horror of death. of self.

Ha... you "lose yourself" yes, you do...

I wish I could have DR of my head for the REST OF MY LIFE!!! I Loved it.

It gave me SUCH A BREAK!

Death of self... without even MPD to create a new "self".

pdr. I've had "fulltime" DP for 21 years, how's that strike ya?

Death of self? Correct. Horror, yes. Submission, yes. Compliance, lack of fight... I guess I was too "proud" to "be myself" and submit to my Mother... Dunno. If She's gonna BREAK MY WILL - I might as well give Her something fake...
:roll:

 

[bat]

what's MPD?
your mother must have really done your head in. did she do something wrong or do you just blame her for your life?

 

[Guest]

what's MPD?
your mother must have really done your head in. did she do something wrong or do you just blame her for your life?

Pdr. I'M responsible for "doing my head in". MPD = Multiple Personality Disorder...
My Mother was home when I had a large frontal lobe stroke and She (RN) "forgot" to ring an ambulance.
Forgive & forget, as they say...

 

[bat]

RN=registered nurse?
i don't think you're going to forget but forgiving might be an option.
multiple personalities: i think everyone has multiple personalities (work, home, friends ...)so what makes yours be called mpd. is mpd the same as schizophrenia?also how many do you have?
excuse the questions, you don't have to answer.

 

[bat]

also
just read your med post; i think you should avoid your mother.
if somebody makes you angry avoid them

 

[Guest]

RN=registered nurse?
I don't think you're going to forget but forgiving might be an option.
Multiple personalities: I think everyone has multiple personalities (work, home, friends ...) so what makes yours be called mpd. Is mpd the same as schizophrenia? also how many do you have?
excuse the questions, you don't have to answer.

Also
just read your med post; I think you should avoid your mother.
if somebody makes you angry avoid them

Thankyou for reading my Med post. I enjoyed writing it. It was a good "off-load".

What I meant here:

Death of self... without even MPD to create a new "self".

was that I have DP of my head & neck, and dont even have the luxury of "alters". Just me, in an altered state, no other "selves". ie Without the MPD ability to completely transmorph. I simply de-tached, and lost out MAKE SENSE

RN equals REGISTERED NURSE.

And... uh. Is MPD the same as Schizophrenia. Can you please clarify PDR?
Thank you

 

[bat]

if schizophrenia is split personality then is multiple personalities an extended kind of schizophrenia

 

[Guest]

if schizophrenia is split personality then is multiple personalities an extended kind of schizophrenia

Is schizophrenia "split personality"??? Then, my MOTHER must have Schizophrenia.

Nobody can define Schizophrenia. "Internally inconsistent" I think is one (short) description.

If you ask a Psychiatrist you'll get a twenty minute 50 paragraph response, using "quotes", references to DSM IV and references to "how Schizophrenics present" and how they ACT during treatment.

And... any Psychiatrist you ask, anywhere on Planet Earth will give you a different answer...

Schizophrenia = Nuts.

I cant relate to your "split personality" theory. That is actually kinda describing DP/DR isn't it...

You arn't concentrating pdr, your references all over the screen alluding to ME being Schizophrenic ruffle the feathers (a bit).

 

[Guest]

You arn't concentrating pdr, your references all over the screen alluding to ME being Schizophrenic ruffle the feathers (a bit).

Is that a joke or are you being serious, Ghost?

 

[Guest]

Is that a joke or are you being serious, Ghost?

Huh?

 

[bat]

feathers too? that's a puzzle
what references to you being schizophrenic?
doesn't make any difference to me whether you are or not.

 

[Guest]

feathers too? that's a puzzle
what references to you being schizophrenic?
doesn't make any difference to me whether you are or not.

OK.

 

[Dreamer]

I'm confused here also, but I wanted to clarify that schizophrenia is not "split personality". "Split personality" is a layperson's term for not understanding a number of mental illnesses.

Schizophrenia is not "split personality" ("Split Personality" it is not a psychiatric term or diagnosis.); schizophrenia is a serious neurological illness that includes hallucinations, delusions, cognitive impairment, and more. During the symptoms, the individual has no insight into what is happening to him/her.

MPD is "multiple personality disorder". This term no longer exists and the definition of what it really is, and what is happening to the patient isn't clear. It is now called DID, Dissociative Idenity Disorder.

Depersonalization and Derealization are symptoms/sensations we folks feel here on the board. The cause isn't clear but there are a number of theories and it seems to be closely connected to anxiety and anxiety disorders.

Depersonalization -- changes in the way one feels one's body
Derealization -- chages in the way one perceives the outside world
There is no psychosis involved here. We have insight. We know what we feel "isn't right", we shouldn't be feeling this way.

Note, I'm referring to, I believe, the majority of the board.

DP and DR, though, can come with most, if not all, of the mental illnesses and some personality disorders, specifically Borderline Personality Disorder.

Best,
D

 

[Guest]

I'm confused here also, but I wanted to clarify that schizophrenia is not "split personality". "Split personality" is a layperson's term for not understanding a number of mental illnesses.

Schizophrenia is not "split personality" ("Split Personality" is not a psychiatric term or diagnosis.); schizophrenia is a serious neurological illness that includes hallucinations, delusions, cognitive impairment, and more. During the symptoms, the individual has no insight into what is happening to him/her.

MPD is "multiple personality disorder". This term no longer exists and the definition of what it really is, and what is happening to the patient isn't clear. It is now called DID, Dissociative Idenity Disorder.

Depersonalization and Derealization are symptoms/sensations we folks feel here on the board. The cause isn't clear but there are a number of theories and it seems to be closely connected to anxiety and anxiety disorders.

Depersonalization -- changes in the way one feels one's body
Derealization -- changes in the way one perceives the outside world
There is no psychosis involved here. We have insight. We know what we feel "isn't right", we shouldn't be feeling this way.

Note, I'm referring to, I believe, the majority of the board.

DP and DR, though, can come with most, if not all, of the mental illnesses and some personality disorders, specifically Borderline Personality Disorder.

Best,
D

Schizophrenia = Doesn't have insight into what is happening.
Interesting. Spot on.

Split Personality is a rather Hysterical/Mythological sounding term.

(You know how to cover all bases Dreamer).

That was an UNBELIEVABLY thorough answer. I have no idea why you started your post with "I'm confused". That's the most balanced Psychiatric evaluation I've EVER witnessed (Did you ever THINK about becoming a Psychiatrist???)


I also know someone who says they have DID, but they cant ever properly describe it. Detail seems "left out of the equation". DID would be interesting to experience. But would be impossible to translate I guess. Extreme all over trauma would be needed

I like the way you concede ignorance when first describing DP/DR before giving perfect one sentance quotes for them (If you know what I mean).

I could ANALYSE your post all day. Covers all angles. Never de-stabilises in view. Covers a moral and ethical standpoint...
AM I GOING TO GET IN TROUBLE???

I hope I dont sound sarcastic. I just KNOW that Psychiatrists would feel saddened by you - way out of their league. You'd take the "fun" out of their Psychiatry.

Your wording is deep as an ocean but would be misconstrued as "simple". It's not.

I hope I dont "confuse" anyone... my belief system and bias is completely WARPED, excuse me

...Somebody's forced you to THINK real damn hard Dreamer.
Just like me. But I've only ever experienced LONG-TERM DP of my head and neck... Funny.
You're a mixture of self-depreciation and Dictatorship... OBSERVATION. No "accusation" or judgement. Observation only...

 

[lone wolf]

schizophrenia is a serious neurological illness that includes hallucinations, delusions, cognitive impairment, and more. During the symptoms, the individual has no insight into what is happening to him/her.

Hi all - I just wanna offer you another viewpoint toward psychotic states of mind. Simply can't resist bringing this url here again:

http://www.global-vision.org/interview/perry.html

I think if someone considers schizophrenic symptoms only as an illness, or worse: nuts/wacko/crazy/insane/etc. he or she has made a jugdement based on cultural views/opinions. It is sad that Finnish writer Maria Vaara's novels aren't translated into English. She was diagnosed as schizophrenic, but she didn't see schizophrenia only as an illness, but also as a gift. I personally like the way the psychiatrist John Weir Perry saw things, and I regard the labeling nuts/wacko/insane only as a cultural way of denial toward nonordinary states of consciousness.

Of coz this is just my little opinion, but it is based on first hand experience of psychosis. I think I have more experience of psychotic states of mind than any person, even a psychiatrist, who has never experienced the stuff personally.