dp/dr with NO anxiety??
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Thats not what Im looking for. Anxiety is anxiety, regardless of what you feel is triggering it. Im looking for people that are in an extended tranquil mental state and yet they still remain in a dissociative state. The way I look at it, a person in a perfectly calm tranquil mental state shouldnt even be bothered by dp/dr. I dont think it matters tho, because I dont believe dp/dr can even exist in a perfect calm mental state.
I think DP and anxiety go hand in hand. I really do. Whether anxiety is a cause or an effect of DP i suppose, is arguable (although i fairly strongly feel that it is a cause). But if you have DP, you have anxiety as well. If not, you aren't DP, you're enlightened!
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I would be very interested to know this as well. I don't know if my dp/dr comes from anxiety, BUT I know I have anxiety that is sooo extreme it makes me want scream, cry, and cease to exist. I HATE to admit it, but if I take a couple of xanax I almost feel completely back to my old self.
I would like to know this because it would give me peace of mind to know that this dp/dr thing IS because of my anxiety and it is NOT something more I have to worry about. Hope others reply so we can find out.
I would like to know this because it would give me peace of mind to know that this dp/dr thing IS because of my anxiety and it is NOT something more I have to worry about. Hope others reply so we can find out.
Hi Rainboteers,
I think you can feel confident that once your anxiety is completely gone, your dp/dr will go with it. Ive been in and out of anxiety states and its always been the case. We dont have a mysterious disorder. Dp/dr is nothing more than a healthy component of the fof response. What causes the anxiety and depression is more the disorder.
Joe
I think you can feel confident that once your anxiety is completely gone, your dp/dr will go with it. Ive been in and out of anxiety states and its always been the case. We dont have a mysterious disorder. Dp/dr is nothing more than a healthy component of the fof response. What causes the anxiety and depression is more the disorder.
Joe
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·yes... i had anxiety before the hole dp/dr thing, but now, i will have no anxiety... and the dp/dr will still be there..... the only way i get really anxious is if i think to much about my dp/dr.
Sometimes it's odd, but after you have experienced something - something very dramatic like the feeling of depersonalization - it's hard to forget the feeling.
I remember one time, when I was young, I was playing around in the backyard and accidentally took a baseball to the face. It _really_ hurt like hell - and, I was about nine at the time, I remember waking up a couple nights with terrifying nightmares where I was getting hit with the ball again - the pain was terrifyingly real. I would wake up, and, no pain - but it was extremely real in the dream. Odd story - but true.
Sometimes when I sit and think about DP, it comes back - simply by thinking the feeling again (yes, I did mean to write the sentence that way). If you had depersonalization at a time in your life - I have a strong feeling that it was strongly associated with anxiety or the extreme feeling of "got to get out of here". It was very dramatic to us - again, my thoughts on why it's so extreme to us apply here - and we remember it and can bring it back through our normal ruminations.
Once you've walked the path, it's hard to unwalk it. Time has past and the wounds have been made.
I remember one time, when I was young, I was playing around in the backyard and accidentally took a baseball to the face. It _really_ hurt like hell - and, I was about nine at the time, I remember waking up a couple nights with terrifying nightmares where I was getting hit with the ball again - the pain was terrifyingly real. I would wake up, and, no pain - but it was extremely real in the dream. Odd story - but true.
Sometimes when I sit and think about DP, it comes back - simply by thinking the feeling again (yes, I did mean to write the sentence that way). If you had depersonalization at a time in your life - I have a strong feeling that it was strongly associated with anxiety or the extreme feeling of "got to get out of here". It was very dramatic to us - again, my thoughts on why it's so extreme to us apply here - and we remember it and can bring it back through our normal ruminations.
Once you've walked the path, it's hard to unwalk it. Time has past and the wounds have been made.
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Dp is a form of protection.
So you have to have something unconfortable to get dp.
Tho i do feel you can get a dissociative experience if your too calm, you can have an "out of body expereince" like meditation, but i don't see it the same as dp
So you have to have something unconfortable to get dp.
Tho i do feel you can get a dissociative experience if your too calm, you can have an "out of body expereince" like meditation, but i don't see it the same as dp
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hmmm...i never experienced anxiety or panic or depression before my dp. now have have anxiety and panic (still no depression) when i'm feeling exceptionaly dp/dr. mine definately didn't come because of anxiety, though it is a symptom of the disorder. my dp isn't a form of protection. it came from some prescription drugs and wacky hormones.
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i definately have extended periods of time when i feel completely calm but i have never felt wonderful about it, mentally. dp/dr is an awful experience and it makes anyone feel icky, at the very least. the only time i really get panicky is when my dr is extremely intense and i have to do something important (like interview for a job, or just work at all). it is always scary but i know it's not going to kill me or make me crazy so i can be calm.
joe, how did you get dp? was it from a past trauma or is it drug-related?
joe, how did you get dp? was it from a past trauma or is it drug-related?
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Yes, yes yes! I have periods where I feel very drugged, like half of my brain has been removed, like I am a zombie... absolutely no anxiety in this state and the DP/DR is bad. My DP is actually the worst when I am in this state (DP but not DR often better when anxiety is present). When feeling zombieish, I actually feel like I need anxiety to feel alive so I drink coffee to wake me up and make me feel more real.
Hi Cpoper,
So what you are saying is you feel that the dp/dr is always there, and the only mental pain you suffer from is what is caused by having to expereince dp/dr? You could be right, but I think for most there is a little baseline anxiety that people become accustomed to. That baseline anxiety is what gets the snowball rolling down the hill. Dp/dr pops up and we become terrified of it. Anxiety worsens and pretty soon we are a great big ball of anxiety and the dp/dr is thru the roof.
My problems started when I was young. Ive was always a worrier. I just never really understood what anxiety was. When I got older I discovered alcohol could make me feel better. Unfortunately it eventually messed me up worse. I quit and ended up with a doctor who got me addicted to benzos. To spare people here the broken record, I wont go into details except to say benzos took me straight to hell.
My biggest complaint was never dp/dr. It was always anxiety. I knew from going in an out of anxiety states what dp/dr was all about. I currently feel pretty damn good. I still get a bit of morning anxiety but it always passes so I dont give it much energy.
Joe
So what you are saying is you feel that the dp/dr is always there, and the only mental pain you suffer from is what is caused by having to expereince dp/dr? You could be right, but I think for most there is a little baseline anxiety that people become accustomed to. That baseline anxiety is what gets the snowball rolling down the hill. Dp/dr pops up and we become terrified of it. Anxiety worsens and pretty soon we are a great big ball of anxiety and the dp/dr is thru the roof.
My problems started when I was young. Ive was always a worrier. I just never really understood what anxiety was. When I got older I discovered alcohol could make me feel better. Unfortunately it eventually messed me up worse. I quit and ended up with a doctor who got me addicted to benzos. To spare people here the broken record, I wont go into details except to say benzos took me straight to hell.
My biggest complaint was never dp/dr. It was always anxiety. I knew from going in an out of anxiety states what dp/dr was all about. I currently feel pretty damn good. I still get a bit of morning anxiety but it always passes so I dont give it much energy.
Joe
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well, for me, the dp/dr isn't always here. it starts getting bad in the middle of my cycle (i hope i don't have to go into detail about what i mean about 'cycle' 
) and gets worse and worse till the end of my cycle. then it goes away until the next month. that's how i know it's almost all hormone related. so i have 2 weeks of dp/dr free life. i feel very lucky that i don't have to feel it all month long like most people. maybe thats why it doesn't cause as much stress and anxiety as it does for most people...i know it'll be gone in a week or two.
so basically what i'm saying, is that i know anxiety doesn't cause my dp/dr...but i do get anxiety from time to time when things look extremely surreal.
) and gets worse and worse till the end of my cycle. then it goes away until the next month. that's how i know it's almost all hormone related. so i have 2 weeks of dp/dr free life. i feel very lucky that i don't have to feel it all month long like most people. maybe thats why it doesn't cause as much stress and anxiety as it does for most people...i know it'll be gone in a week or two.so basically what i'm saying, is that i know anxiety doesn't cause my dp/dr...but i do get anxiety from time to time when things look extremely surreal.
No experience of anxiety whatsover.
Its what makes it difficult to relate to a lot of people on this board. Im sure there are underlying issues, triggers and tensions as such but I dont experience them. Not feeling even anxiety must just be an extentsion of the whole protective dissociation. Ive been like this over three years and take what advice I can from this forum but the consensus is to rid the anxiety and the dissociation should go...
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Its what makes it difficult to relate to a lot of people on this board. Im sure there are underlying issues, triggers and tensions as such but I dont experience them. Not feeling even anxiety must just be an extentsion of the whole protective dissociation. Ive been like this over three years and take what advice I can from this forum but the consensus is to rid the anxiety and the dissociation should go...
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Before I had my panic attacks leading to panic disorder, sometimes when I would smoke pot I would get derealization. I remember I couldn't figure out what it was but it didn't bother me. I really don't ever remember being anxious about it because it didn't scare me. It was just like a trippy feeling that came sometimes when I was stoned. Then when I started having panic attacks the dr would be really strong and that coupled with a panic attack caused extreme anxiety and now my dp/dr always coexists with anxiety.
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i've had dr/dp for the past six months on and off. i strongly believe that it is a symptom of anxiety and that is all. Maybe if i had dp/dr for the past six YEARS on and off my opinion would be different but i think the mind putting us in this "unreal" "not here" state makes us able to handle horribel events. I believe that dr would come into effect when something traumatising such as being raped, mugged, attacked by a bear happened and dr/dp suffer's brains just put this into practice at random and freqent points. this is basically what an anxiety disorder is aswell! i know i've asked this all over the site so sorry if this is the billionth you've read this but has anyone heard of dp sucsess though the linen method? check it out if you've never heard of it http://www.thelindenmethod.co.uk/depers ... sation.htm
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