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I read some Reddit comments and a couple people said that people who've fully recovered never had real DP/DR in the first place. What are your thoughts on this?
 

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When you've been around a site like this for a long time there are certain things people say and do that become familiar. One of those is to place our own DP in a special category as though no-one else has ever experienced DP quite like ours or anything like as bad. This is something I think of as, "my DP's bigger than your DP."

This is understandable when we are talking about a condition which can be extremely harrowing and disturbing. Symptoms can be so extreme that it can be impossible to imagine that anyone else could have felt as bad as we do now. There is also an element of self-defense involved, as it can hurt to consider the possibility we might not be a special case, and can feel that we have failed if someone else has recovered. Many of us are wounded and sensitive to things, and as counter-productive as it might be, another person's recovery can be received as though it were a personal attack. As a moderator I've had a fair amount of stress having to deal with aggression in the recovery section for this reason. Mental health problems can also come with a lot of depression and hopelessness, and hopelessness is only a step away from cynicism.

Again, all this is understandable, and undoubtedly different people will have lighter or more severe DP depending on their individual circumstances and history, but I've never personally found it of any use to place yourself in a special category and doing so may in fact impede your recovery. Being open and humble to different methods of recovery is the best way to find the right path for you. It is possible the causes of DP in some people may be quite unusual, but the chances are slim and they still wont be the first. People can and have recovered from all degrees and lengths of DP, and you can find testimonies to that in the recovery section.
 

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That's fucking bullshit lol, almost anybody has capacity do develop DP/DR, let's put you into fight or flight every hour for 30 day without giving you much rest, let's see what happens? Too much stress without rest develops this also, when you go into DP/DR it puts you in a loop where you think stuff that don't matter and ruminate about those, which makes the cycle continue so you never get out of the stress cycle, it goes on and on, so you're almost in the stress mode all the time. What the fuck is real DP/DR? Do you mean DID?(dissociative identity disorder) Depersonalization and Derealization are not ilnesses they are big symptoms of cumulative stress and some other things. When you correct everything it should go back to neutral and fog should lift. There is no DP/DR as a disease, people get stuck in ghost dp/dr thought loops and that makes them stay there when they enter to that state. It might look easy from my writing, but for people with who has no information about the subject, what they experience, why they experience, those are all so real and frightening, there are so many triggers that are almost become natural in the brain of DP/DR people that those thoughts are almost like familiar to them, so their brain thinks that is good idea to put the person in that state and generate those thoughts, because plasticity changes and it becomes accustomed to everything you do on repetetive basis. That is my own and fair explanation. People smoke marijuana, some switch happens, that's correct, then they stay in that loop, without knowing what's happening, without challenging their thoughts or knowing that is just a phase and could return to normal, so they ruminate and worry about it all the time, and their brain gets accustomed to the new style, when you do something habitually repetetively, with or without your intention, you make your brain change, that is why so many people say accept it, when you are able to accept it you take the power of those dp/dr patterns and maybe put some new patterns. Also I believe people who claim to have "real dp/dr" are the people who I mentioned, who have been stuck in the same loop and thinks they can't get out because that is not in their control, they are in that period for so long that, their new self is now dp/dr, and they say their dp/dr is real, of course their dp/dr is more real than any others, because it is on work for so long that it is now habitual, that is what real dp/dr is.
 

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some people do have worse dpdr than others, and it will make it harder for them to recover. usually because of depression adding onto it, or people not taking proper care of themselves in terms of diet or meds. that being said, i think its just those that haven't recovered yet venting their anger and trying to justify why they arent recovering. its sad to watch honestly.
 

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Some people probably have it for a terribly long time due to trauma from early life and haven't found a head doctor that's any good in trauma training.

I do think some people in the very start of DP think that they have the worst depersonalization in history.
I do think some feelings can be worse then others
but that's a subjective thing because we all see things differently.

I believe depersonalization becomes a habit after having it so long
 

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Ah, yes, the "No true Scotsman" fallacy applied to DP. DP/DR are just that. For some it may be more less permanent, for others, it's not. Most people will experience it in their lives, at least briefly. So obviously it does go away, at least for those people. For others, it's the product of another underlying disease...treat the underlying problem, and the symptoms may go away. The only way a person can say that "only real DP is permanent" is if they predefine DP as a permanent condition. Which seems to be exactly what they are doing.

Focus on yourself. Reading this forum, various people got their symptoms from various sources. Some (like me) don't really know. The fact is we all only have one life, and we have to do whatever we can to make it the best. For some, they will get treated. For others, they may just have to find a way to deal with it. I've accepted mine, at least for the moment (I still try things to deal with the symptoms). My biggest problem is I live in a world that doesn't understand or accept this condition, and that's a huge source of discomfort in itself. But I do the best I can to survive the moment.
 

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I dont is my case rare. But i believe that mine is made by people. Like i feel i have been made to be like this. Those keeping me in this stress or deperession. Intentionally. It is probably my reason for this awful depression. Think about that. How fucking painful it is. When i have no control over myself or life. And that shit just happens. Im not gonna explain how it happened. But man. Thos assholes exist in this planet. Those who wanna hurt. Anyway. Im ready for this life. I really dont need to be here anymore.
 
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