[Guest]

Hi,

I wonder if people feel like they tried everything to get rid of dp/dr. ike therapy, good eating, meds, .... For the people who had this for a long time and doesn't bother about it anymore (searching for THE answer), do you feel like you have done everything and DP is an illness, caused by drug or trauma, or stress or etc. and some people can get cured, but not others, and you belong to the second class?

Is there some people here who have a plan to get better, like psychologists, med trials, therapy, good eating, etc., and plan to stick with it?

Maybe it's not a good question because maybe it will be depressing to hear that but, just wonder...

Cynthia xxx

 

[gem]

Cynthia, I am someone who feels they have tried many things to get better. I do not try alot of medications though because I do not feel it is the right way to go for me. I did try a couple of meds but they were not helpful so I decided to just live that alone. The way I look at it is at least I know the way I am right now and with the different meds I would not know how I would be so I just leave well enough alone. I do not want to get worse even though there maybe a chance to feel better I am afraid to try the meds. I do work very hard at feeling well, some days are very difficult to get through but I try to focus on day by day not look to far ahead. The doctors feel I have suffered severe traumas so it may take time to feel well again. I do hope you feel a little better, I look for the sunny days. Take care.

gem.

 

[Inflammed]

I think that most of us try solutions to solve our problems but we don't stick to them.

By that I mean let's say I tried modifing my sleep habits and sleep at least 9 hours per night...it's not a 6 month period that will tell if it helps or not...all our solutions are long terms solutions.

I already tried many things to improve my condition and hopefully, every habit of my life that I modify for the best only gest me better each day !

It's not only about trying anything, it's about trying it for a long period of time...even if it doesnt seem to help at the beginning...maybe it could help in long term.

The minute I will stop trying and hoping, searching and wanting to get better...that very minute will be my last.

 

[dakotajo]

Im sorry but every time I read one of yor posts I cant help but get a mental picture of a very tense person chewing their finger nails, looking into a computer screen trying to figure a magical cure for their "illness". I just think its sort of ironic that MAYBE the desperate searching is whats aggravating or even causing your obvious anxiety problems. I know its easier said then done but you need to give up searching and just learn to relax.

 

[Inflammed]

Check your PM Dakota...

 

[dakotajo]

Hey Inflammed,

Misunderstanding...read the reply to your pm.

Joe

 

[Inflammed]

Here's a beer Dakota 8)

 

[Guest]

I don't give a damn of what you are thinking... So you can think what you want of me, I don't care.

P.S. By the way you never saw me so you can't tell what I look like in front of a computer. But hey, if your game is to make fun of me, go on, looks like a great game.

Cynthia

 

[dakotajo]

Hi Cynthia,

Im not making fun of you. I really do feel that we all tend to do what I stated above. At times, Im guilty of it also. I just feel that all this desperate searching for some sort of a cure for our illness(I dont think its an illness) is only aggravating or even creating more mental distress. A person just has to try to relax and forget about it.

Joe

 

[falling_free]

I tried meditating for a while, didn't help my dp much , actaully probally made it worse. Im on anti pycho/depressent/anxiety pills called crotipine or something like that, all they seem to be acheving is making me zombiefied but with a slight lifting of dp at certain times , occasional happy moments but still zombiefied.

i was gong to get cognitive therapy but last time I saw my doctor he didn't mention anything about it so I don't know whats going on, apparatnly there's a large waiting list or something.

 

[Inflammed]

DP/DR cannot be solved with theories or on the internet.
I beleive it need the concrete sound of our footsteps in order to get better.
Try things...don't just think them.
And try them for real...not for 3 days...

 

[falling_free]

I think a great way to fill the void is to be creative, like write paint make music whatever, just get some of them demons out on canvas or write a poem or something, I try and do stuff like that and I get a bit of relief for a while.

 

[Inflammed]

Fight fire with fire.

I too use my DP to create and express myself.
Getting it out of me somehow...
By writing music, poems, digital art, and others.

Get involved in your life...volunteer for your own cause 8)

 

[Guest]

Inflammed,

What are you doing for work? Because I think you do work.

Cynthia

 

[Inflammed]

Hi Cynthia

I do in fact work, in IT Technology..network security, laptop repair.
I work full time...and a bit more for my personnal business.

Do you work Cynthia ? Whar are you doing of your days ?

If we compare a day at work and a day at home, I prefer from far the day at work...gets my mind busy, I don't stay fixated on symptoms.
There is alwayssomething to shift my worried toughts, I can go away whenever I want (thats what I say to myself), I have a better sleep and eating schedule, I see people, I talk and interact with others...
The list goes on and on...

I often get home and start feeling bad...surely because I'm more tired in the evening and hungry...but mainly because my mind is free, and when my mind is free...she always has to go to weird places she's not supposed to !
I need cuffs for my mind, please !

Ca fait 10 ans Cynthia que je vis avec la d?perso...ce qui se dit ici est pas toujours v?ridicte et sens?...si t'a besoin d'un coup de main ou de conseils laisse moi savoir...
J'crois que je te l'avais deja offert mais sans r?ponse...
J'suis un anti-m?dicament ca on le sais tous ! Mais surement tu te joindras a moi pour ca bientot !
Ca fait presque 9 mois que j'ai arret? les pilules et j'ai encore de s?rieux problemes reli?s, effets de sevrage...eh oui...9 mois...c'est pour ca que je d?teste ca maintenant.

Je crois vraiment aux facons plus naturelles d'aider le corps a reprendre ses forces, et la tete a rejoindre la r?alit?.
En fait je ne crois pas, je sais !

Porte toi bien...du mieux possible !

 

[Guest]

Hi Inflammed,

Thanks for the reply. I don't work and I know I should, it would be better for my health.

Et pour ce qui est de la m?dication, bien p-?tre crois-tu que je suis folle d'en prendre, mais je crois que chacun cherche et trouve sa solution en quelque part, et je ne suis pas rendue la. Moi je cherche seulement un antid?presseur qui me startera, tu sais. Parce que sans meds, je ne peux m?me pas travailler et me pr?senter en entrevue. C'est plate mais c'est cela. Et j'ai essay? de ne pas prendre de meds, de bien manger, des suppl?ments naturels, tout le kit, et crois-moi, c'?tait l'enfer. J'?tais pas rendue la. Je ne suis pas radicale et je me m?fie un peu des radicaux car je crois qu'on cherche sa solution un peu partout, et ce qui fait du mal a quelqu'un peut faire du bien a l'autre... si tu avais eu du succ?s avec un antidep ou un benzo, tu chanterais une autre chanson...avoue-le.

Je me fais facilement influencer depuis 18 mois, et j'essaie tant bien que mal de trouver MA voie, avec meds ou pas, mais ce soit moi qui d?cide. J,esp?re que tu comprends. Je n'ai rien contre toi!! Je cherche a survivre. Et je ne fais pas d'abus de benzos, et je ne bois pas, prend pas de drogue, et rien de cela.

Cynthia

(excuse others for the French language!)

 

[Guest]

falling free I also tried meditation and it made the DP much worse. I can't even be around people who are praying, it puts me in a trance, very strange.

Last year I got very sick (physically) and decided to try a vegan diet. I ate strictly vegan (no animal products including eggs or milk) and an unexpected side effect was that I felt very different mentally.

My DP was still there but it was different. I felt more alert and vibrant. I was able to think more clearly.

But it was too hard to stay on that diet.

I don't know if meat/ egg/ dairy products might have a bad effect on the body and mind, or the anitbiotics and hormones used to raise the animal products, or if being vegan just makes a person consume more nutrient rich foods that help the body and mind.

 

[Inflammed]

si tu avais eu du succ?s avec un antidep ou un benzo, tu chanterais une autre chanson...avoue-le.

Tout a fait...j'avoue !

Je comprends ton point ne t'en fait pas...
C'est vraiment pas facile toute cette histoire de fou...souvent j'ai l'impression que c'est un cauchemar...
En fait mes cauchemars sont moins pire que ca...

T'a MSN ?

 

[falling_free]

falling free I also tried meditation and it made the DP much worse. I can't even be around people who are praying, it puts me in a trance, very strange.

Yep I found that whenever I mediatated i could achieve a feeling of an empty mind at some times but then this feeling could and probably does enhance a general feeling of dp/dr as the condition itself is that the sufferer feels they have no sense of self, so meditating to be empty i figured is kind of counter porductive, whenever i meditate now i just let my mind wonder wherever it wants but since i have a really busy mind still i find my mind going off in too many directions , i mean i come t some conclusions about exsitence for what abouta few seconds or something but i usually forget these conclusions and they are just thoughts anyway, thoughts are all exsist anyway , they are all that confirms that i exist but observing my own thoughts during meditation just increases the exsistential part of my charecter further.

 

[Guest]

I can meditate, but not in the traditional sense. I can really be blissed out listening to Brian Eno, Sigur Ros, Godspeed!, Shostakovich, etc. Just pop in some intrumental, classical or ambient and I'm thoughtless. Also, when i'm awestruck by natural beauty, I can "meditate". Impossible in my room. Even more impossible with Ravi Shankar.