[fel49]

Hello all,

As a DP Suffer I have a specific question. Do you consider DP as a enlightenment or a sa positive thing?
Indeed illness or symptoms shows something is working with us and give us a signal that we need to do some change ?

So maybe I need to do bigg change in our life ? Change work ? It is because I have no find my purpose or I do not live on the present or analyse too much myself ? Like DP is to show to face fear and reality or signal I am on the wrong way ?

Or it is just to stop analyze too much and live fully my own life and DO THINGS I LOVE ? Its look like signals when I was policeman I lost my personality my "ego" (so depersonalization) and this job was not for me so symptoms come..

But why I have still have tit ? Did I have no found my own love. Maybe love and accept myself with positive outlook and do things I love ?

Its look like it is a crisis conscious. I have found a interesting comment on your tube:

"DP results from a premature (immature) awakening to an experience of self that "we" aren't prepared for, whether by trauma, drugs, alcohol, stress etc. It's easy to dismiss talk of enlightenment as airy fairy bullshit when "we" are sunk into the depths of despair at the meaningless of life in the throes of DP. Each are like noon and midnight, occupying the same position on the clock, though signifying opposite times of the day. One light, the other dark; during one period we are awake and the other we are asleep. DP isn't cured, but rather endured and seen through. It is the "Dark Night of the Soul" as described by John of the Cross, hundreds of years ago, in his book of the same name. The more we struggle against the quicksand, the more it sucks us down: what is resisted will persist. It's difficult to accept this as a necessary part of our growth, but here it is, nonetheless, even though we were not ready for it. You will come through with greater humility and wisdom, no small things. Your ability to appreciate life itself will be amplified. There is light at the end of the tunnel. The sun always rises."

Thanks all and sorry for my bad English

 

[itwasonlyjustadream]

It can be both. I wish I had experienced dp for like a day or maybe a couple of hours in order to realize how brutal it is and if it went away then I would totally see it as a blessing.
I remember at the very beginning I started to realise how good I had it before I got dp and it made me feel really bad because I often complained and shit like that. But it's normal because you're so deep in your feelings and your sense of self is intertwined and all that. Getting dp makes you see everything as if you're just an observer which can be good if you don't like dealing with feelings.

But unfortunately having feelings and a sense of self is fundamental for a human being especially if you want to achieve your goals and stuff. That shit has to be intact. So it's definitely a curse. I'm only 20 so I feel like it ruined my life tbh.

 

[willbarwa]

This reminds me of the "Dark night of the soul". Sort of like a spiritual journey. And life may be a spiritual journey. I do believe DP is the result of some increased awareness of what we are, kinda like taking the next step up to a higher platform. But I do admit that DP can be caused by actual physical and neurological causes. This however does not take away from how lucid and terrible DP can feel. For those that do not have it, words cannot explain what you feel.
But DP can be either a nightmare or a resolution. This is a pit stop, a check-in sort to speak, this is where the self begins to know more than just "I". The psychosomatic connection is being severed, no longer adhering to individualism and realizing oneness within every dichotomy. But this journey can be brutal, some can't take this reality, much like how some experience Kundalini awakenings, some are too afraid and never complete the process. Why? Because, the creation of -- the illusory "I", persists.

All is one and one is all.

 

[Mere-Observer]

There are quite a few articles including research papers on google regarding DPDR and it's similarities (or dissimilarities) with what we call "enlightenment" . People who mostly suffer from it, see it as an evil twin of enlightenment. Most DPDR sufferers that i know do NOT consider it "enlightenment" because it makes you suffer so much. That suffering in some cases never stops and some people never get out of that gaping abyss of DPDR.

However, there are a few DPDR sufferers like myself, who once "recovered", felt like it indeed has "enlightened" us in so many ways. Because our views on life in general become completely transformed. The hustle and bustle of life becomes just a game to enjoy and not some kind of death race that we MUST win. You participate in all games knowing fully well that it is a game. I realize that many DPDR sufferer also have existential dreading. And that stops them from enjoying or even attempting any thing in life. I do not wish DPDR upon my worst enemy but i simply need to state the fact that it has given me the most valuable insight into myself and made me a lot better human than i was before that.

 

[PerfectFifth]

Enlightenment? Well, I'd say that the suffering it has brought has probably figured into my causal history in a way that has made me more enlightened (in a non-spiritual way) because it's driven me to think more deeply and research things that I probably would not otherwise have researched. It's made me into an observer instead of a participant in the "game of life", and that comes with its own perks. I don't know what kind of person I'd be today if it wasn't for DPDR, but I'd wager a vastly different one. It's been a trade-off because life is consistently kind of shit due to being spaced out constantly, but it has some positive effects as well.

 

[Mere-Observer]

The participation in the "game of life" has become a choice and not an obligation for me. Hence my name "Mere Observer"