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Here are some excerpts -- this is a brief article -- I encourage everyone to read it and just take it in. This is helping me, and is also simply a variation of CBT and DBT. This can be practiced in ways most comfortable to you -- I use this with Yoga as I feel more grounded. And "meditation" can mean simply walking and observing nature, simply letting these thoughts go ...

And it takes a LOT of work.
Learning to fall apart
"My OCD had been creating vivid, painful rituals for years. So could Buddhist ritual give me a means to fight back?"
by Matt Bieber

" ... the practitioner simply focusses on the outbreath, following it as it passes the tip of the nose and dissolves into space. Thoughts arise, of course, and when the practitioner notices that his attention has been diverted, he simply takes note and returns to the breath.

Over time, the practitioner begins to notice the sheer quantity of thoughts and feelings that his mind is generating. He sees the way that these mental phenomena have a mysterious life of their own - that they arise from nowhere and then disappear again. He starts to realise that it is possible to see thoughts and feelings without judging them, reacting to them, or identifying with them.

As this happens, the practitioner begins to notice some of the stories he tells himself. Some of these are big stories - about the kind of person he is, the 'meaning' of his life, and so on. Others are much smaller - his narrative about why he should buy this toothbrush rather than that one, for example. But in both cases he starts to see that these stories are simply composed of thoughts and feelings - like a string of popcorn on a Christmas tree. In other words, he sees that his stories about himself are made-up, too. (Practitioners of contemporary cognitive behavioural therapy - CBT - might find such insights familiar.)

And as he recognises this, a kind of loosening occurs. Not only does he identify less with individual thoughts and feelings, but he also begins to rely less on particular ways of understanding himself. He feels less and less need to summarise his experience, to corral his raging flood of thoughts and feelings into a stable, permanent view of who he is. And as he begins to let go of his constant grasping after solidity, a fuller sense of who he is starts to emerge.

OCD often feels like a Choose Your Own Adventure novel, except that all the choices suck and all the adventures hurt. However, as I've begun to learn through Buddhist study and ritual, those 'choices' are illusory, and there's no one being hurt. In fact, there's no one there at all. The attempt to attain pleasure or avoid pain, to stay consistent with a storyline, to ensure some kind of outcome, to be somebody - this is what causes so much suffering."
I will also past this in the religious forum, though this is already in practice in Western Medicine -- 1990, Marsha Lineham, U. of Washington. Look up Dialectical Behavioral Therapy (which is based upon the work of Zen Buddhist - Thich Naht Hhan. This is truly a form of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. There is no "voodoo" here, it is simply an Eastern Version of CBT which when practiced regularly (hard work) can help with intrusive thoughts. I have only been able to apply this after years of bad chronic DP/DR ... but some here could practice this now ... preventive techniques I knew nothing about 40+ years ago.

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Bump. More people should read this.

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This is excellent, I used to meditate quite a bit and saw some improvement but recently I've let it slip, i think it is truly important to see thoughts as exactly what they are. If you have anymore (op) I'd love to talk with you about this.
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