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So I was coming back from college today on the bus and all these questions kept popping into my head.

What's the meaning of life?
Why do we do the things we do?
Why do things look the way they do?

You can't answer any of them. It's like I don't understand life.

Is this DP/DR of something worse?

How can I possibly return to my normal self (if it's still there) when I feel like this?

I'm so messed up and out of it, I've had this for several months, I see no light at the end of the tunnel.

Matt
 
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Hello Matt!
Ah this is my first post here... Hello everyone out there !
I have DP/DR for 10 weeks now and got those, impossibly being answered, questions which sound totally weird to others, too. But without knowing their answer it's much harder standing against my problems.
Actually I'm reading the books by Ken Wilber which are about Philosophics, Existance, K?smos and the question to the 42.
 
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Hola,

Welcome to the site, I am glad you were able to find it just after 10 weeks of knowing you have DP! God, I think I spent the first 10 weeks just trying to convince myself that I wasn't insane or that I didnt have a brain tumor or some other horrific thing! Well...skip ahead...skip ahead...its been a few years now with the DP, and all I know, it was sure helpful to find a site where there were others like myself who understood what it was I was going thru.
In regards to the questions of "life" that roll around in your mind. I think the best thing to do in order to not drive yourself completely "batty" is to leave all the tough questions alone for now. Just know that you are alive and that your life has a meaning. The details will sort themselves out in time.

Good luck,

Tony
 

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Hey Matt.

This probably isn't what you want to hear. But the solution doesn't seem to be to find answers to those questions. Perhaps you might find something, but it'll never be enough, and more questions will always rise their heads just as soon as the old ones lay down.

Instead you need to concentrate on living without knowing the answers, and without needing to know them. Ride roughshod over the unkknown; embrace the absurdity. Let go; accept that it's ok to say "I don't know" on these matters and just move on.

This won't be what you want to do, since these questions probably seem very important to you right now. But give it time and you really won't care more than the average Joe.
 
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Tony_the_eminence_front said:
Hola,

Welcome to the site, I am glad you were able to find it just after 10 weeks of knowing you have DP! God, I think I spent the first 10 weeks just trying to convince myself that I wasn't insane or that I didnt have a brain tumor or some other horrific thing! Well...skip ahead...skip ahead...its been a few years now with the DP, and all I know, it was sure helpful to find a site where there were others like myself who understood what it was I was going thru.
In regards to the questions of "life" that roll around in your mind. I think the best thing to do in order to not drive yourself completely "batty" is to leave all the tough questions alone for now. Just know that you are alive and that your life has a meaning. The details will sort themselves out in time.

Good luck,

Tony
Uhm yes but finding this forum was "luck"! I actual think my DP and DR are induced by an overmedicamentation of asthma spray over a couple of weeks (I really needed it). My Symptoms are less skin senses, dizziness, foggy head, very low memory, a bit less ability imagening/remembering visuals or sounds in mind, DP/DR; it all came on a sudden accompied by the feeling of heart stumble and pressure in my head. But first I just thought of a brain tumor/aneuyrisma or something that kind too, so I let made a MRT, EEG and 24h EKG but there wasnt anything wrong...
On searching in the internet for an answer to that all I found accidently a link to a forum about visual static which I do have since I'm about 11 years old. Someone there was telling about his DP/DR and posted the link to here. I'm so glad now knowing I'm not alone.

greetings, Max
 

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I can't diagnose you and I haven't even been diagnosed myself, but everyone asks these questions - even people without dp..... But your post wasn't that detailed and you've probably read into it more. If not and you're just having these philosophical ponderings that are weighing you down, I don't necessarily think depersonalization is the problem. But yeah - that's in one instance, you probably just didn't describe all of what you're feeling. But I can tell you, I was relatively normal and clear headed and still questioning these things at one point. Hope that you don't and you're just in a sort of -- "existential rut"
 

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It's weird. It's hard to really explain the feelings. I'll give it my best shot

- Like I don't understand reality (anyone relate?)
- Short Term memory is bad
- Things don't feel real
- Feel like I'm not actually here
- When I wake up in the morning I feel really bad, like I don't know where I am.
- When I do something, It's like it's not me doing it.
- Feeling I don't exist, like I'm dead and just living a dream.
- When doing something I used to do I don't get any enjoyment out of it
- When doing something its like I've never done it before.

:?

Anyone relate? Espically to the first point.

All this started during a panic attack one night, its slowly got worse.
 

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Matt89 said:
It's weird. It's hard to really explain the feelings. I'll give it my best shot

- Like I don't understand reality (anyone relate?)
- Short Term memory is bad
- Things don't feel real
- Feel like I'm not actually here
- When I wake up in the morning I feel really bad, like I don't know where I am.
- When I do something, It's like it's not me doing it.
- Feeling I don't exist, like I'm dead and just living a dream.
- When doing something I used to do I don't get any enjoyment out of it
- When doing something its like I've never done it before.

YES YES YES YES !!!! ME ME ME ME !!!!!!

i totally have what you have too believe me you are not alone !!!!!!... :!:

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Anyone relate? Espically to the first point.

All this started during a panic attack one night, its slowly got worse.
 
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Matt89 said:
- Things don't feel real
- Feel like I'm not actually here
- When I do something, It's like it's not me doing it.
- Feeling I don't exist, like I'm dead and just living a dream.
sounds like DR to me! ye I am like this 24/7 I have lived 30 years with everything seeming one way, then one moment bang, I went into DR, since then everything remains surreal, like I am dreaming, or less conscious than b4

- When doing something I used to do I don't get any enjoyment out of it
- Short Term memory is bad

Sounds like Depression to me, and yes I have this also, very much.
 

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Thanks for your replies.

Well my Anxiety has pretty much subsided now, haven't really had a panic attack for a while. Is it the Depression that could be fueling the DP/DR?
 
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Sometimes I'm like "Why the hell am I here?" Also, I question life-related topics a lot.

I'm not sure if this is on-topic or not, but when I think those things, I feel like I'm in a dream, and sometimes I get tired and even apathetic. Then I'll be like "Alright, I'm real. If I can move my pinky finger, then I'm real." So I'll move my finger and I still won't be satisfied.

I can deal with that, but not the physical symptoms, like nausea and dizziness/fainting. It's so hard. :cry:
 

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for me this is like the chicken and the egg, which came first, the questions and then the DP or the DP then the questions... either way i have to deal with both so i guess it doesnt really ahve much significance.
I believe that these questions become more intense when dp'd, they can at times completely consume and swamp my mind. I think the ultimate fear factor are the - death questions, what happens when i die, whats the point we're all going to die anyway, what does dying mean etc etc etc... However, i've found that over time after mulling over thee questions, they have begun to fade away into the background, i feel maybe this is a natural process of becoming slightly more nomral in thinking patterns again or something, however my dp has not decreased, i am greatful for the persistant questions ceasing.
I know it might not seem like it at the moment, but i promise you they will begin to fade and become part of the background, like they were before, it's a natural hase we has questioning humans all have to travel through at some point, some more intensly then others.
all my love and good wishes,
El
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