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i dont really think its anxiety.. im hardly anxious over this shit, im more anxious cause i dont know what to say and not confident in myself cus of this crap, hard to be confident when u feel lost and dont know what to say

but it could be anxiety, a very high anxiety

my doctor told me this

everyones anxiety level is at a 50, from 0 to 100, everyone is at a 50, if we didnt have 50 anxiety, we'd all be dead, anxiety is the feeling we get when we feel danger, no anxiety, equals r cavemen ancestors getting eatin

ok so everyone is at a 50, if u have regular anxiety, id say ur at a 60ish

normal people will have anxiety, shoot it up to 65ish, and due with time, a day or so, itll be back to 50

with feeling weird everyday, r anxiety never stops increasing, dp gave us an anxiety of 65 every day, the days we keep panicing r levels keep shooting up

now if ur like me, i obsesed over this shit and got an anxiety level of 110, this is how the doc explained it..

over 100 u get schizo, bi polar,

but for those 2 things, u need an anxiety of 150 or something crazy

im at 110 were i developed paranoia

sucks but im on meds for it, hopefully it will lower, and ill be back 2 normal

idk if im completely paranoid, i just wish i could talk to people again, with my heart, make people laugh, if i could do that, dp wouldnt even be a bother, thats just me,

idk im rambling, any questions hmu

and im not a doctor, im just saying what he told me, just take what i said with a pinch of salt, but what i said is the best i can remember
 

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It's got something to do with anxiety i think because the first time i experenced dp was after my very first panic attack at 15 .
And every time after it triggered from panic attacks and just plain anxiety .

I was told off the last head dr i seen , that once someone uses dissociation during high anxiety , they will most likely continue to dissociate in the future if experiencing anxiety / stress.
Makes sense i guess
 

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If this DP/DR really is just caused by anxiety, then why isn't this condition much more common, since anxiety is very common?
Its much more common than you think Marisa...But the truth is people who develop DP are basically people who have been disscociating from a young age but are unaware they did because they grew up thinking it was the norm...The acute anxiety tends to kick in later around the teen years (bullying in school, peer pressure etc etc)...Ya mix the two together (along with drug taking for some) and the end result is DP......

Us anxious DP sufferers are all super sensitive human beings and always were....We just didnt realise it because it was never really a major problem until DP came along...

Everybody deals with anxiety and stress at different levels in different ways....We just happen to be people who dont cope so well hence we disscoiated (tuned out) from an early age to manage lifes pressures and stresses better...
 

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While this is a good video and the people in it all claim to have gotten better through therapy and CBT etc the unfortunate thing is that this type of treatment and care is only available to a lucky select elite few...

For most of us we will never have access to such specialised treatment hence we are left with no other option but to go down the route of medications etc...

The sad thing about these types of videos is that they always focus on the success stories (which are few) and the rest of us (the general majority group of DP sufferers) are left untreated....Most of us cant financially afford such treatment let alone put our lives on hold for 18 months/ 2 years/3 years to participate in such treatment to even begin to get better...
 

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I actually believe that most if not all of these positive success story mental health videos (about depression, anxiety, DP etc etc etc) are PR stunts to cover up the real problem that exists....That is that mental ill health, suicide and self harming etc etc are rampant in society....

It is all being washed under the carpet by health services and governments simply because they sadly have no idea how to deal with the problem and secondly probably dont want to because of the costs involved...

How many Mauldsley clinics are there in the world and even more so how many of us will ever even get near one????????????
 

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How you know the majority hasnt recovered? Any proof? We will never know it...Just keep in mind that many leave this subject behind because it naturally leaves the mind.

When those treatments arent available, why not trying self-help books, based on CBT and ACT,and really focus on doing it?

I can recommend "the hapiness trap" by Russ Harris.
 

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How you know the majority hasnt recovered? Any proof? We will never know it...Just keep in mind that many leave this subject behind because it naturally leaves the mind.

When those treatments arent available, why not trying self-help books, based on CBT and ACT,and really focus on doing it?

I can recommend "the hapiness trap" by Russ Harris.
Of course the pull your socks up brigade jump straight in....

Ask anyone on here suffering with chronic depersonalization what self help books have done for them??????

If youve been lucky enough to recover from this condition whilst continuing to go to work day in day out, paying your bills, raising children, partcitpating in your regular hobbies and social life etc etc etc im afraid youve not experienced depersonalization to the extent that alot of us on here have.....

Chronic depersonalization incapacitates people....It leaves them squirming in their beds in total mental agony unable to sleep, concentrate, communicate, eat, focus, read, walk, talk..............(shall i go on)......................

Please dont patronise me when ive dealt with this condition for nearly 30 years and NOTHING has made it go away....
 

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I am here to help, suffering is created by the mind, so I suggest you all here to regain "control" over your mind by methods created by many therapists. You dont need to suffer, suffering is totally unnecessary.

Of course, this needs full dedication and a shit ton of work to see results! But why not really focus on it, why not fully dedicate to those methods (acceptance etc.)? It is worth a try.

Best wishes.
 

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Of course the pull your socks up brigade jump straight in....

Ask anyone on here suffering with chronic depersonalization what self help books have done for them??????

If youve been lucky enough to recover from this condition whilst continuing to go to work day in day out, paying your bills, raising children, partcitpating in your regular hobbies and social life etc etc etc im afraid youve not experienced depersonalization to the extent that alot of us on here have.....

Chronic depersonalization incapacitates people....It leaves them squirming in their beds in total mental agony unable to sleep, concentrate, communicate, eat, focus, read, walk, talk..............(shall i go on)......................

Please dont patronise me when ive dealt with this condition for nearly 30 years and NOTHING has made it go away....
I've suffered from chronic depersonalization,for a long time. It has not incapacitated me, I'm not in a catatonic state, nor am I squirming in agony. For many years I felt very little physical or emotional pain. You choose to negate my experiences, with what appears to be a strongly held belief, rather that something that is based in evidence. What would motivate you to attempt to negate the experiences of other people? It is a concern, that by continually negating the experiences of others, you will cause unintentional harm, that is why I feel obliged to intervene.

My own process of improvement, has very little to do with "luck". It is based on trawling through research, gaining understanding of my condition and remaining open to new ideas. It has been unfortunate that I don't have access to formal treatment methods that are available to the majority of people.

There is also a danger that symtoms that might be due to other factors are being attributed to dp and dissociation. Depression, anxiety, illicit drug use etc need to be considered and perhaps attributed to some symptoms. Some research leans towards this view, unfortunately we don't all have access to the latest research.

Just for once, are you able to provide evidence to support your generalized claims?
 

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If this DP/DR really is just caused by anxiety, then why isn't this condition much more common, since anxiety is very common?
It can definitely be anxiety. Just because you are not anxious does not mean you don't have bouts of anxiety. Over a long amount of time, the constant anxious states, coupled with the panic attacks, puts your CNS out of whack.

DP is kind of like PTSD. Some PTSD sufferers even reported being "spaced out" or feeling detached, though for them it was mostly episodic.

I remember reading about an imbalance with nonepinehrine, epinephrine and some other term I can't remember. It was one long word, attached together and was speculated in many TCM articles.

Theres' a lot of shit that is out of balance with DP sufferes but the maing component is anxiety. For me, it was anxiety that caused it in the first place.

I grew up with very little roots, moved a lot during my teenage years, no father, my connection with my mother is somewhat estranged even though growiing up with her (partly because she left me so many times when I was a kid and suconsciously I resent her for that).

I was anxious about everthitn growing up, and would get panic attacks here and there...you see, my body is strong and so is my mind. So it took a lot of abuse -- mostly self-inflicted -- to get to this stage.

The damage that was done to me is irreversible but the beauty is that with patience, acceptnce and dedication, the mind paves a new road on top of that bumpy one and a new 'you' developes.

I believe everyone's road is different. Some it may take years, others it may take months.
 
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