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SC, my dad has the irregular heartbeat thing, u r right on the one there is not alot they can do with it. his was picked up on a medical not because of any symptoms, might of had it for years, anyway i dont think meds help it but in my dads case they are keeping an eye on it and one day they might fit a pacemaker to regulate it. dont stress to much about it, you ll only increase the anxiety, just follow the gps advice.
am i talking rubbish or what???
i am starting to sound like one of them people who has to of known someone in a similar posisiton in alot of things....oh my god... there the people i hate
am i talking rubbish or what???
i am starting to sound like one of them people who has to of known someone in a similar posisiton in alot of things....oh my god... there the people i hate
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·I'm gonna say this again: if you do this test, you must ask yourself WHY? There is simply not much of ANYthing the doctors can do about this situation.
You'll scare yourself witless before during and after. You will then start thinking you are dying and that you're likely to have more panic attacks, to replay the trauma of the test.
I am NOT telling anyone to not get medical help. But...ask questions. People are so deluded into thinking that if a doctor finds a good set of symptoms and/or diagnoses that means they can FIX the problem. You'll still just be someone with a heart condition, who now has a nice set of graphs and a fuller chart of test results.
And all that said, you'll do whatever you do.
Also, for most of my life, my heart skipped on a regular basis. I could feel my heart skip, and it always gave me a sinking almost deathlike sensation...as if I was about to drop dead. Sometimes my heart would speed up to about 130 beats per minute, for no appearant reason....and scare me witless. Then it would skip more than ever for a week or so.
Since resolving the mental symptoms, I don't think my heart has done that in years.
One would be utterly stunned at what the mind can do to the poor ol' body when we are living 24/7 inside a self who is holding onto its own thoughts like a grip vise.
Peace,
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You'll scare yourself witless before during and after. You will then start thinking you are dying and that you're likely to have more panic attacks, to replay the trauma of the test.
I am NOT telling anyone to not get medical help. But...ask questions. People are so deluded into thinking that if a doctor finds a good set of symptoms and/or diagnoses that means they can FIX the problem. You'll still just be someone with a heart condition, who now has a nice set of graphs and a fuller chart of test results.
And all that said, you'll do whatever you do.
Also, for most of my life, my heart skipped on a regular basis. I could feel my heart skip, and it always gave me a sinking almost deathlike sensation...as if I was about to drop dead. Sometimes my heart would speed up to about 130 beats per minute, for no appearant reason....and scare me witless. Then it would skip more than ever for a week or so.
Since resolving the mental symptoms, I don't think my heart has done that in years.
One would be utterly stunned at what the mind can do to the poor ol' body when we are living 24/7 inside a self who is holding onto its own thoughts like a grip vise.
Peace,
J
Dear sc,
I recall you have been taking Inderal, yes, or taking it "off and on". Errrr, I could slap you.
At any rate, I thought this meant you have mitral valve prolapse, a condition my mother was born with -- and she was born in 1916 when obviously medicine was far more primitive, cardiology included. As she got older, she'd scare the HELL out of me as it HAD been misdiagnosed as anxiety and she was a psychiatrist!!!!!!!!
Well, somewhere in my early teens, someone had the brains, and perhaps an EKG machine to see she had very irregular heartbeats. (And as noted which had gotten worse with age.) She was put on Inderal.
BUT, it took quite a while for her to get the correct level, and I'd come home from school -- late, after a play rehearsal -- and find her passed out on the floor. One time she thought she'd had a heart attack, and we had Ladder 7 and the entire police department at the house.
Anyway, once she had the correct med, we didn't have to make midnight runs to the hospital either -- ME DRIVING AT 3AM!!!! -- to get IV inderal.
End of story: my mother lived to be about 2 months shy of her 85th birthday. Mind you, she had Alzheimer's -- but a perfectly healthy body.
1. I wish to God you'd stop smoking
2. Does the doctor know about your anxiety? There may be other ways to test your heart, though I have heard this procedure is "the latest." My cousin, who is seriously obese, and on a million meds had this done.
3. Why did your Dad have that first heart attack at 50? You have to know. Bottom line, quite the damned smoking... oh, I already said that... and find out why he did. His family history is important too. What was the problem????
IF YOU KNOW THE PROBLEM YOU CAN START HEADING TOWARDS THE SOLUTION. Hey, I'm a doctor's daugter.
My father was a thoracic surgeon. He had a terrible heart as well, but died of congestive heart failure at again within months of his 85th birthday. The changes he saw in cardiology and thoracic surgery over his medical career astounded him. HE wouldn't have lived as long as he did if it weren't for modern advances. AND he quite smoking in 1962. He was born in 1906.
Don't worry about your heart (easier said than done -- you will anyway I know)! There are many new procedures that can make BIG differences these days. But I would tell the doctor, who sounds pretty sharp -- it was my mother's cardiologist who saw her Alzheimer's (no one would believe ME).
I'd gather there are other means of doing this test. Please tell your doctor AND cut out caffeine, smoking, and do whatever the docs tell you to do. Also, she didn't have you on a gurney STAT. That's a good sign. I'm certain this is a problem, like a valve, that can be handled.
L,
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I recall you have been taking Inderal, yes, or taking it "off and on". Errrr, I could slap you.
At any rate, I thought this meant you have mitral valve prolapse, a condition my mother was born with -- and she was born in 1916 when obviously medicine was far more primitive, cardiology included. As she got older, she'd scare the HELL out of me as it HAD been misdiagnosed as anxiety and she was a psychiatrist!!!!!!!!
Well, somewhere in my early teens, someone had the brains, and perhaps an EKG machine to see she had very irregular heartbeats. (And as noted which had gotten worse with age.) She was put on Inderal.
BUT, it took quite a while for her to get the correct level, and I'd come home from school -- late, after a play rehearsal -- and find her passed out on the floor. One time she thought she'd had a heart attack, and we had Ladder 7 and the entire police department at the house.
Anyway, once she had the correct med, we didn't have to make midnight runs to the hospital either -- ME DRIVING AT 3AM!!!! -- to get IV inderal.
End of story: my mother lived to be about 2 months shy of her 85th birthday. Mind you, she had Alzheimer's -- but a perfectly healthy body.
1. I wish to God you'd stop smoking
2. Does the doctor know about your anxiety? There may be other ways to test your heart, though I have heard this procedure is "the latest." My cousin, who is seriously obese, and on a million meds had this done.
3. Why did your Dad have that first heart attack at 50? You have to know. Bottom line, quite the damned smoking... oh, I already said that... and find out why he did. His family history is important too. What was the problem????
IF YOU KNOW THE PROBLEM YOU CAN START HEADING TOWARDS THE SOLUTION. Hey, I'm a doctor's daugter.
My father was a thoracic surgeon. He had a terrible heart as well, but died of congestive heart failure at again within months of his 85th birthday. The changes he saw in cardiology and thoracic surgery over his medical career astounded him. HE wouldn't have lived as long as he did if it weren't for modern advances. AND he quite smoking in 1962. He was born in 1906.
Don't worry about your heart (easier said than done -- you will anyway I know)! There are many new procedures that can make BIG differences these days. But I would tell the doctor, who sounds pretty sharp -- it was my mother's cardiologist who saw her Alzheimer's (no one would believe ME).
I'd gather there are other means of doing this test. Please tell your doctor AND cut out caffeine, smoking, and do whatever the docs tell you to do. Also, she didn't have you on a gurney STAT. That's a good sign. I'm certain this is a problem, like a valve, that can be handled.
L,
D
Ah, PPPS! Forgive.
I did a trial of Inderal in the 1980's. Recommended for anxiety. Well that was useless, though some swear by it.
When I went off of it, I had a HORRLBLE irregular heartbeat. I ended up in the ER with a rhythm strip that scared the Hell out of the doctor.
Once the Inderal was out of my system, that stopped.
If you're playing around with your Inderal (that sounds odd, LOL) you could be making a preexisting problem worse.
Try not to worry about what you can't control. I have to tell that to myself on an hourly basis .... at least :shock:
I did a trial of Inderal in the 1980's. Recommended for anxiety. Well that was useless, though some swear by it.
When I went off of it, I had a HORRLBLE irregular heartbeat. I ended up in the ER with a rhythm strip that scared the Hell out of the doctor.
Once the Inderal was out of my system, that stopped.
If you're playing around with your Inderal (that sounds odd, LOL) you could be making a preexisting problem worse.
Try not to worry about what you can't control. I have to tell that to myself on an hourly basis .... at least :shock:
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I don,t know what to say to you, but that you are not alone, and don't give up.
Cyn xxx
I don,t know what to say to you, but that you are not alone, and don't give up.
Cyn xxx
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·Hi sc
Persoanlly I would try and get a second opinion. First of all Inderal is not a very effective beta blocker for irregular heart beats. Has your doctor ever talked to you about atenolol or other beta blockers? It is designed to help achieve a steady heart beat by specifically reducing the adrenaline effect upon the receptor cells of the heart muscle. I don't know but my doctor gives it to me to help lower my BP but it also creates a very regular heart beat. That is the main reason it is prescribed in most cases.
That you are being treated with inderal makes me suspicious as it is mostly for anxiety associated with stage fright or to help hold your hands steady when competing in an archery contest. etc, not specifically for the heart irregularities, as i understand it. Of course I am no medical specialist.
Is there some reason you can't take the standard high speed walking treadmill stress test?
Also simply an irregularity in the tissue of the mitral valve when it closed used to cause me to have irregular heart beats periodically and this is when I started to obsess about my heart stopping because it felt like it did stop but it simply skipped a beat or two and then would occasionally flutter for a few seconds. Of course if you feel your situation is worsening it is worth checking into but I would still suggest a second opinion if you can get one. I would at least want to try and do some research on the drug they are intending to inject into you, and see if there may be other alternatives. And perhaps it just speed up the heart without chemically inducing anxiety or a panic reaction.
well best of luck sc
I know how these kinds of health issues and treatment plans can make it difficult to know what is the best course of action to pursue.
john
Persoanlly I would try and get a second opinion. First of all Inderal is not a very effective beta blocker for irregular heart beats. Has your doctor ever talked to you about atenolol or other beta blockers? It is designed to help achieve a steady heart beat by specifically reducing the adrenaline effect upon the receptor cells of the heart muscle. I don't know but my doctor gives it to me to help lower my BP but it also creates a very regular heart beat. That is the main reason it is prescribed in most cases.
That you are being treated with inderal makes me suspicious as it is mostly for anxiety associated with stage fright or to help hold your hands steady when competing in an archery contest. etc, not specifically for the heart irregularities, as i understand it. Of course I am no medical specialist.
Is there some reason you can't take the standard high speed walking treadmill stress test?
Also simply an irregularity in the tissue of the mitral valve when it closed used to cause me to have irregular heart beats periodically and this is when I started to obsess about my heart stopping because it felt like it did stop but it simply skipped a beat or two and then would occasionally flutter for a few seconds. Of course if you feel your situation is worsening it is worth checking into but I would still suggest a second opinion if you can get one. I would at least want to try and do some research on the drug they are intending to inject into you, and see if there may be other alternatives. And perhaps it just speed up the heart without chemically inducing anxiety or a panic reaction.
well best of luck sc
I know how these kinds of health issues and treatment plans can make it difficult to know what is the best course of action to pursue.
john
SC, I would really get a second, third, and even fourth opinion about your situation. See other doctors and see what they say. Docs are frequently wrong in their diagnoses. It sounds like you have an arrhythmia of some sort which can be controlled by meds. I'm no doc, but I have proved docs wrong in the past hehe. The whole part about a doc being there with paddles ummmm, not a very reassuring thing to say. Anyhow, get another opinion or two and see what comes of it. Whatever it is, you've caught it early and it can only get better from here. Good luck.
Ken
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·Your post, sc, doesnt give any hint as to why the doc wants you to do the stress test.
What tremendous insights will you gain having the test done?
It seems that the only knowledge you will gain is wether your heart is capable of enduring extrem heart rates, or just not.
But, who would want to know this? Its senseless information.
Its like testing if you are functioning in a war situation, but since you dont want to be a soldier anyway, there is nothing positive you can get out of it.
What tremendous insights will you gain having the test done?
It seems that the only knowledge you will gain is wether your heart is capable of enduring extrem heart rates, or just not.
But, who would want to know this? Its senseless information.
Its like testing if you are functioning in a war situation, but since you dont want to be a soldier anyway, there is nothing positive you can get out of it.
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sc, I can understand your fear. I have been wearing a holter monitor for the last two weeks to try and catch some of the fluttering that my heart is doing. I too am very frightened, I did the stress test recently and have an appointment with a heart specialist in january, that is the earliest i could get into to see him. I have been worried sick about the way my heart has been acting so I know how you feel. My physician says try not to worry but as you and i both know that is easier said than done. Many times I have said to myself my poor heart what it has gone through. It has been broken so many times I just wonder if that is what has caused my problems. Don't give up sc you will be okay they will figure this out and help you feel better. We have to believe this.
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·SC, i wish i had some Dreamer esque medical advice to give you, but obviously i don't, but don't worry man, im sure you will be fine. Maybe you should stop smoking bogies, you know they aren't exactly healthy,although i won't be too hypocritical with my smoking past & last night i was feeling depressed so i took a few drags off a cig. Do you exercise??? Like go to the gym or jog exercise?? If not maybe you should start, i know it makes me feel better physically. Do some cardio vascular exercises, that will definetly help out your heart. This problem you have could be related to anxiety to like J Bizzle said.
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·Hi Sc,just want to say I also have mitral valve prolapse,although I understand that this is not what your doctor is concerned about.
The thyroid meds commonly cause heart palpitations and anxiety,I assume you were taking thyroxine?
Can't say for sure if this is what has triggered your new heart symptoms but it is possible.
If you have to trial a thyroid med,it's worth asking for T3.
It may still cause some anxiety.It seems to be the latest treatment for hypo type throid conditions.It is also used as anti depressant,now for bi polar and other conditions.
No way on God's earth would I subject myself to adrenaline injections.
Why not seek out a cardiologist,after all that's their field.
I don't know how many **** lol you have a day but a cardilogist told me that smoking is the number one worst thing you can do for your heart.
He said it's way ahead of fatty food etc.
All the best
Cheers Shelly
The thyroid meds commonly cause heart palpitations and anxiety,I assume you were taking thyroxine?
Can't say for sure if this is what has triggered your new heart symptoms but it is possible.
If you have to trial a thyroid med,it's worth asking for T3.
It may still cause some anxiety.It seems to be the latest treatment for hypo type throid conditions.It is also used as anti depressant,now for bi polar and other conditions.
No way on God's earth would I subject myself to adrenaline injections.
Why not seek out a cardiologist,after all that's their field.
I don't know how many **** lol you have a day but a cardilogist told me that smoking is the number one worst thing you can do for your heart.
He said it's way ahead of fatty food etc.
All the best
Cheers Shelly
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·I'm worried about my own heart too. My father had a heart attack at 50 and his father died of one at 51. The former Robert I, the latter Robert II. I'm Robert III. I think i'm fucked.
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