[Guest]

Hi all!

I'm suffering from dp and am new here. I have been following the forum for a while, but this is the first time for me to write.

I will post my story a bit later, but for now I would want to know something concerning kannabis psychosis, as I have heard of it but don't know if something like that actually exists.

For me dp developed within a couple of days about 6 weeks ago, 10 days after I had smoked marijuana. I have only tasted a couple of times in my life and never really got high, as each time I've smoked I've just taken a couple of puffs. The same happened last time, I didn't get much high. And dp didn't develop until abt 10 days after smoking, so is it even possible that I could have kannabis psychosis? (What I mean is that for me dp did not come the way, that I would have stayed high and never got back to normal after smoking. It came days afterwards.)

For me it is very much possible that dp is related to some other issues such as depression, anxiety and/or obsessiveness, as for a pretty long time I had some emotional stress (social anxiety, an entrance exam last spring, for which I had been studying like half a year..). Dp started in circumstances where the stress and related insomnia had lifted only a while ago and I had started feeling a bit depressed instead.

I haven't had any hallucinations or delusions, it has been just dp with it's different symptoms (first dr - which then slowly lifted - now just general unrealness and feeling like I'm living in a dream).

However I'm so worried about kannabis psychosis and I desperately would need some accurate information about it - my primary concern is that is it something that can be permanent? Or is it something that one can be cured from? How long might the kannabis pyschosis take? And does it follow smoking straight away or can it come with a delay of days?

If somebody knows something on this subject, I'd be so appreciated.

 

[Guest]

First off, you are not describing ANY psychotic symptoms, so you have virtually no reason at all to fear "cannibas psychosis"

If a drug induces a psychotic state, it does so DURING the "trip" - with effects that can linger, but not ones that waltz in a week later!

What you describe is very common to dp sufferers who have major anxiety or obsessive defenses. Those defensive structures get "rocked" by the experience of being on a rec drug - your sense of Reality was challenged, and if you're obessive to begin with (or held together sort of with spit and glue), that drug experience can be perceived by your mind as a kind of Trauma.

What then happens is that the mind spends the next several days trying to regain status quo - and it takes about a week for those efforts to hit a brick wall. the result is that the person develops some kind of horrible mental symptom to cope with the fact that they feel "changed" or diffferent...they're freaking out, to put it non-technically.

But it is NOT brain damage. It is precisely the same experience others of us had even though we didn't do a drug at all. SOmetimes it's the awareness of somethign so "shocking" to the mind's status quo that it induces the same kind of response.

Woudln't worry at all about the psychotic connection.

Welcome! Glad you posted.
Janine

 

[Guest]

Thank you for answering. I'm very relieved to know that the potential kannabis psychosis would induce during the "trip"/being high. What I still would be curious to know, is that is kannabis psychosis something permanent, or does it lift ultimately? I've tried to search info but there's not much available.

Are you then suggesting, that - even if not kannabis psychosis - it is probable that for me tasting pot was the trauma that resulted in dp. Is it probable even though I didn't start developing symptoms until days afterwards? When tasting pot I didn't freak out in any way, or didn't start observing if my reality/state was changed some way (=I wasn't even thinking about the "experience" after the day I smoked).

Could it be more probable that it was something else that triggered my dp? As I had been depressed for a while and I was in some level afraid of what was happening to me (suddenly, for the first time, I was feeling depressed and unbelievable tired all days long..) and as a result I was maybe turning towards introspection.

I quess I'd now need to find out what was it that worked for me as a trauma that resulted in dp. That's the reason I was asking is it possible that the pot was the trigger, even if symtoms came over a week later? And even if I never freaked out because of the pot or hadn't even been thinking about it for many days when the symptoms slowly came.

This is such a difficult symptom to learn about as it can be related to so many different illnesses and can be triggered different ways...that makes me so nervous.

But thank you for answering and sharing your knowledge. And I'm sorry if my language is pretty formal or something, as I'm not english in my native language. :wink:

 

[JAG]

Janine is wise.

 

[Guest]

Janine, I started hallucinating when i ate weed which is also the day I got DP/DR and as you said...the effects don't just waltz in later on....I've had hallucinations since that day but also when i was younger...thing is i swear i have a form of psychosis as thoughts are more jumbled/weirdy behaviour etc etc dp/dr usual fight....plus it can go undiagnosed...just wanted some advice i guess

 

[JAG]

Here is an interesting article entitled Feeling Unreal: A PET Study of Depersonalization Disorder

http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/con ... 57/11/1782

 

[enngirl5]

What does that mean "A higher level of metabolic activity"? I'm too drained to read the whole article.

Also Janine, brilliant... this is me

What you describe is very common to dp sufferers who have major anxiety or obsessive defenses. Those defensive structures get "rocked" by the experience of being on a rec drug - your sense of Reality was challenged, and if you're obessive to begin with (or held together sort of with spit and glue), that drug experience can be perceived by your mind as a kind of Trauma.

What then happens is that the mind spends the next several days trying to regain status quo - and it takes about a week for those efforts to hit a brick wall. the result is that the person develops some kind of horrible mental symptom to cope with the fact that they feel "changed" or diffferent...they're freaking out, to put it non-technically.

 

[Guest]

Actually what also worries me is that is it really possible to recover 100% from kannabis-induced dp? There isn't a possibility that something permanent could have happened?

Is there living proof at the forum that people has cured from dp that followed smoking?

 

[Guest]

I think everyone has their thresholds as far as attaining some sort of psychosis. Some people might be able to get it from smoking some weed. I had some borderline psychotic episodes from years of smoking and other drug use (e, acid, dxm, k, mushrooms). Some people are psychotic from birth and didn't need drugs to trigger anything latent. My own drug use is shadowed by people who've taken drugs like those for years and never gotten any psychotic reaction, but it'll get to them eventually.

I think we're all a bit psychotic, just like we're all a little bit gay, except for me. I bet if all men had enough buttsex against our will, we'd soon grow fond of it and craze hairy man ass all day. That was the perfect analogy.

 

[stickdude]

I bet if all men had enough buttsex against our will, we'd soon grow fond of it and craze hairy man ass all day. That was the perfect analogy.

i wonder what straight people would be called then