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I came in from work last nite very late and turned on the tv.Commercial channel was advertising a device for creating a 6pack stomach without exercising.Then it dawned on me,that this is the trap dp sufferers fall into;the false belief that we can recover by simply waiting passively for recovery and without trying to change or exert effort.The avoidance of pain and effort,not just in recovering but in life in general is core to the condition of dp and I'm convinced that when you learn to accept this,a massive step has been taken.Only those who have moved out of the chronic stage of dp will understand what I mean
 

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True true man. I also believe that with most medications too. Some of us need em' most of us dont. Everyone is looking for some magic pill that they can take to make everthing come back to normal.

Not gonna happen...
 
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I think the reason I'm not getting better is like what's written on the front page.

There may be pervasive beliefs of literally ?willing oneself? to remain sane, along with a morbid fear of (and resisted wish for) total surrender to what seems to be an impending psychosis.

I almost want to be completely crazy. And I have too much fear and anxiety to believe I could live a normal life. I'm scared and I'm confused, and that makes it really hard.
 

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Being crazy would be a relief in the sense that it removes you from a perceived inauthentic existence as a "normal" person. Sometimes you go through so much shit that you would rather just stop fighting and be crazy, than make a seemingly pointless effort to be like everyone else.

I'm not saying that this is healthy, but I often feel this way as well.
 

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exactly ...if if you are limited by anxiety still try and get out there and get busy...sitting on this machine or in front of the tv wont do you any favours
 

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Absolutely. Instead of being nervous and shy about getting off my arse and starting a new job, I feel fantastic - interacting with other people, laughing, joking, concentrating on a difficult task, self-esteem, tired but contented aftert a good days work and therefore a good nights sleep, lack of opportunity to drink booze, and an increase in self-esteem...not to mention all the forementioned attractions. I don't even care I have to sit on the train for 45 mins. I'm happiest I've been in a long while. All I need to do is loose 2 stone and I'll be the happiest man alive.

We've been saying this all along !!!!!!!!!!!! But people have been too polite to say 'get off you goddam backside'. :wink:
 

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good for you martin...i know what you meen ,having a purpose is the main objective,i do alot of (cough) private jobs around my neighbourhood and after a days grafting i feel brilliant
 
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