[jc]

before everyone attacks me i know that we arnt making these symptoms up,but the only reason i ask is why the HELL dont doctors recognize this as an illness,ive just been reading a few posts where forum members have seen doctors or maybe heard it spoken about briefly on a tv programme but all i ever come away with is a diagnosis of anxiety/panic attacks....
how many others are out there now going through this hell and dont know what is happening to them,and all the poor souls that have probably thrown in the towel because they couldnt take the pain anymore...its just a shame that this isnt widely understood,it feels like a secret illness which makes it even more frightening...
im sure that when people hear of our symptoms they secretly still just say

'yeh poor old jc has had a nervous breakdown,hes gone a bit funny in the head'

sad but true...how can we get this illness recognized by doctors ?

 

[dreamcatcher]

jc, I KNOW WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM......

......the phychiatrist i was made to see said a had anxiety/panic disorder and told me dp can be a symptom of it, but not for long and also said its not possible to have dp/dr 24/7.Shows how much she knew :!:

But my gp{doctor} who i now see instead of the phychiatrist told me i have depersonalization, and agreed it can take a long time to get over it,not to expect to get better over night; and basically take each day as it comes.

Its weird because you would think the phychiatrist who specializes in mental health would have a better idea than a normal family doctor. I really appreciate my doctor cause she has taken the time to listen to me, research the illness and now given me fortnightly appointments so she can check on my progress.

So no i personally dont think where making a meal out of been ill, i think we just need people who want to help and are not just after the money!!!

 

[jc]

this is why i lose faith and have bad patches,its not so much the dp its for the fact that i sometimes wonder if these docs just tell us something that we want to hear....if i had a broken leg and the doc said 'ok give it a month and it will be healed' id think 'no problem' but when some doc tells me that i will be fine but doesnt even know what dp is then i start to feel lost

 

[Guest]

It's not an illness per se. It is a mental symptom. The myriad of horrific experiences we humans can have in the name of Mental Symptom covers a huge gamut.

Dp, dr, anxiety, panic, horror, terror, depression, suicidal desires, obsessiveness to the point of being crippled, paranoia, delusions, utter and abject misery, utter and abject horror, amnesia, massive mood swings....they are all the experiences of a mind gone askew.

Doctors view nearly all of them in one of three ways:
1) psychotic (that is NOT anyone reading this, so shut up, grin)
2) anxiety based
3) mood disorder based (depression, etc)

The meds they have are going to target one of those three areas.

that's it, guys.

That's all there is.

The human brain is so complicated that the best shot you've GOT is to try to do the work on the psyche (therapy, inner change, etc.). That's where the vast majority of "cures/recoveries" come from. There just isn't anything they can DO "to" you to "Fix" you.

you can hate that fact and scream that the doctors are idiots, but that's the complexity of the human brain. Most psychiatrists do not consider mental symptoms to be ILLNESS - but indications that something is horribly wrong with the self, the self's thinking, feelings, growth, maturity, personality constellation, etc. The only way to "fix" it is through the slow and arduous task of structural change.

peace,
J

 

[jc]

as always spot on !
as much as we talk and get things off of our chests that is the only way to go

meds
self help

 

[Guest]

Janine's

The human brain is so complicated that the best shot you've GOT is to try to do the work on the psyche (therapy, inner change, etc.).

I would say:
The human brain is so complicated and doctors have failed to understand it despite the fact that they pretend they do.

Well, that is why the best shot is the work on the psyche, because there is simply nothing better available.

 

[Guest]

I dunno if its just me but these posts are becomming kind of redundant. No offense to anyone of course but how many times can you talk about the same exact thing, if you know what i mean? Or maybe you don't....

The on going monotony of this subject, after 9 months is actually kinda boring me now. Theres only so many times we can discuss this kind of stuff. Maybe instead of thinking about it, try thinking about something else?

Personally, im starting to care less & less about Depersonalization or whatever it is that i have, and more about how to get my life on track and stop feeling miserable. Ive already been through all the symptoms, ive recognized them all and have been educated on them all, so its like what more is there to say? I got my MRI results back today and everything is physiologically fine with my brain, so obviously a huge part of my problem is mental.

:roll:

 

[Guest]

what subject are you exactly talking about?

 

[jc]

if thats how you feel soulbrotha it sounds as if you are better off going out and living life and deleting the link to this forum...no offence meant its just if you feel you dont need support anymore go for it,live life

 

[jc]

i refused any kind of brain scan years ago as i knew that it was my mind and no other problem....ive not heard of one story of anyone on this forum whos had a brain scan and its been bad,the docs offer you guys these things to put your mind at ease

 

[Guest]

I did have a brain scan and also the test where some electrodes are placed on one's head, forgot the term...

Well, nothin wrong with my brain.

 

[Guest]

jc, i didn't mean that i am recovered or all better. But what i did mean was, is there really a point to keep posting about the same exact things over and over? How much good can it really do??? And im not trying to imply that its just you who does this jc. I know I used to do it all the time. I can see if you are trying a new med and have questions or have questions about something new or if you have unfortunatly developed a new symptom, but the post like this one that you started ive felt like ive read about 100000000000 times before. Theres only so much you can say about this shit.

 

[jc]

sure i know exactly what you meen,sometimes i could bang my head against the wall when i read the same story,or indeed type the same story,but the only way for some of us to get through the bad times is through reassurance,its the nature of the beast,sometimes no matter what weve felt before it always feels like its a new experience....
you will find that every individual on this forum will have there own hangups about a certain symptom or med

me with my inability to believe that others feel unreal like i do
dakota joe with his benzos
sc with his conviction that hes going insane
you with your belief that you may be psycotic

you see we each have our repeated hangups