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Good evening everyone!
My name is D ,i’ve been diagnosed with DPDR since i was 16.. GAD and MDD
( back story to the 9 years of dpdr, one day i started obsessing i had hurt my liver and oh god i couldn’t stop 🛑 now i know these were signs of my ocd 🛑 shortly after i started having dpdr .. then the intrusive thoughts came, i had harm thoughts mainly but eventually after a few months it went away.. every now and then the intrusive thought would pop up in different ways, especially when i would be on the phone with a loved one i’d think of the most meanest horrendous things to say to them like “ i hope you die “ all of this in my head.. it would cause me cry and feel awful about myself.. “

Fast forward to now
after a very stressful year fighting with my spouse family issues etc.
im 25 … i was recently diagnosed with Pure O Ocd with changing themes. My most main theme that keeps reoccurring is Schizophrenia ocd / Pshychosis ocd.. Anyways as of late i’ve started to have what i can still call intrusive thoughts since they are not coming from an outside source and i definitely don’t think someone out these in my head.

Example : Ill be in the car with my husband having a whole conversation and out of no where almost like my brain makes a noise that sounded like a sound inside of my brain come through ..

another example is : I sometimes hear random words or sentences that have nothing to do with what i’m doing at the moment. “ What are you doing “ “ i’m scared “ * song lyrics * * random noise * again i don not hear these outside of my head but i am terrified this is some sort of start of hearing actual voices … since sometimes
i’ll talk back to myself in my head and tell myself to shut up.

i’ve never experienced or heard of this type of intrusive thought.. my therapist say they can come in all shapes and sizes .. i also understand it could just simply be a different obsessions since intrusive thoughts pray on what we are scared of..

i also have mild confusion, i’ll forget words and what things are called at time it’s really weird .. and then i’ll think back of something i heard in the tv and think it some how has something to do with my life and then i’ll be like that’s weird why did i confuse that.. im scared that those tiny confused episodes are going to turn into a full blown delusion or i won’t recongnize an intrusive thought because i may be confused ( i’ve asked my therapist this and he says it sounds like an over estimated threat because it’s never gotten worse just random tiny bouts ) .. anyways if anyone could help me feel not alone i’d really appreciate it…
( as i typed the last sentence the word srupid popped into my head in a different voice ) so weird ..
 

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The concept of “intrusive thoughts,” just like that of “hearing voices,” is grossly misleading, and psychiatry does a disservice to their patients and the public by employing those expressions.

Back in the days when psychiatry viewed homosexuality as a mental illness, gay people would often complain about experiencing “intrusive homosexual thoughts that invade their consciousness.” Nowadays, for the most part in the western world, people don’t generally experience “intrusive gay thoughts.” Why not? Because they are not bothered by them. In fact, most people in the West today probably embrace them, go with them, or value them.

The reason why people experience “intrusive thoughts” is because they are disturbed by them and therefore they focus heavily on them, which then makes them experience their own thinking exceptionally vividly and with great intensity. A person’s frustration with trying to fight with their disturbing thoughts can sometimes get to the point where they disown their own inner interlocutor and begin interpreting those thoughts as “hearing voices” from some other agent.

I’m not personally a fan of many of the “cookie cutter” therapies out there that try to understand these problems as if they were unitary phenomena. However, I do think that you might find some of the techniques suggested by “ACT” (Acceptance and Commitment Therapy) to be somewhat beneficial and reassuring. Specifically, it might be helpful when you are experiencing these “intrusive thoughts” to preface that thought with “I am having the thought that…” and just let it be, rather than trying to fight or reason with your thoughts and worrying whether you are developing psychosis.
 

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The concept of “intrusive thoughts,” just like that of “hearing voices,” is grossly misleading, and psychiatry does a disservice to their patients and the public by employing those expressions.

Back in the days when psychiatry viewed homosexuality as a mental illness, gay people would often complain about experiencing “intrusive homosexual thoughts that invade their consciousness.” Nowadays, for the most part in the western world, people don’t generally experience “intrusive gay thoughts.” Why not? Because they are not bothered by them. In fact, most people in the West today probably embrace them, go with them, or value them.

The reason why people experience “intrusive thoughts” is because they are disturbed by them and therefore they focus heavily on them, which then makes them experience their own thinking exceptionally vividly and with great intensity. A person’s frustration with trying to fight with their disturbing thoughts can sometimes get to the point where they disown their own inner interlocutor and begin interpreting those thoughts as “hearing voices” from some other agent.

I’m not personally a fan of many of the “cookie cutter” therapies out there that try to understand these problems as if they were unitary phenomena. However, I do think that you might find some of the techniques suggested by “ACT” (Acceptance and Commitment Therapy) to be somewhat beneficial and reassuring. Specifically, it might be helpful when you are experiencing these “intrusive thoughts” to preface that thought with “I am having the thought that…” and just let it be, rather than trying to fight or reason with your thoughts and worrying whether you are developing psychosis.
The concept of “intrusive thoughts,” just like that of “hearing voices,” is grossly misleading, and psychiatry does a disservice to their patients and the public by employing those expressions.

Back in the days when psychiatry viewed homosexuality as a mental illness, gay people would often complain about experiencing “intrusive homosexual thoughts that invade their consciousness.” Nowadays, for the most part in the western world, people don’t generally experience “intrusive gay thoughts.” Why not? Because they are not bothered by them. In fact, most people in the West today probably embrace them, go with them, or value them.

The reason why people experience “intrusive thoughts” is because they are disturbed by them and therefore they focus heavily on them, which then makes them experience their own thinking exceptionally vividly and with great intensity. A person’s frustration with trying to fight with their disturbing thoughts can sometimes get to the point where they disown their own inner interlocutor and begin interpreting those thoughts as “hearing voices” from some other agent.

I’m not personally a fan of many of the “cookie cutter” therapies out there that try to understand these problems as if they were unitary phenomena. However, I do think that you might find some of the techniques suggested by “ACT” (Acceptance and Commitment Therapy) to be somewhat beneficial and reassuring. Specifically, it might be helpful when you are experiencing these “intrusive thoughts” to preface that thought with “I am having the thought that…” and just let it be, rather than trying to fight or reason with your thoughts and worrying whether you are developing psychosis.
It’s hard accepting but i understand what you are getting at they don’t call OCDS the disease of doubt for nothing… im working on my CBT/ and ERP/ to basically accept the thoughts and be okay with them.. it can still be scary though, thank you for your reply :)
 
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