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I cant visualize anything anymore. Over the past four weeks my ability has disappeared. I have also lost my inner monologue. If i want to hear my thoughts i have to physically talk out loud.

I also struggle with total loss of emotions!

Anyone have this and recover?
 

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I cant visualize anything anymore. Over the past four weeks my ability has disappeared. I have also lost my inner monologue. If i want to hear my thoughts i have to physically talk out loud.

I also struggle with total loss of emotions!

Anyone have this and recover?
well a real blank mind is, if you dont even have thoughts you could speak out loud. yours is just an obsessive self control where you try to experience something as you was used to it.
 

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well a real blank mind is, if you dont even have thoughts you could speak out loud. yours is just an obsessive self control where you try to experience something as you was used to it.
what do you mean? I never said my mind is blank, i just said i cant hear my innervoice and i cant visualize
 

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what do you mean? I never said my mind is blank, i just said i cant hear my innervoice and i cant visualize
here is the big problem. many people who got this believe their mind is blank. you are totally fine, there is nothing to recover from. you got dpdr and your brain is massively under stress and overdrive.

at my onset i had the same worries. with time i realized that i just tried to play a vivid voice in my head what has to be as loud as a physical voice. later on i just knew that i have still my inner voice but it was never as loud as i believed it to be. when you were healthy you never ever checked your inner voice and evaluated if its loud or vivid or what else ever.
 

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here is the big problem. many people who got this believe their mind is blank. you are totally fine, there is nothing to recover from. you got dpdr and your brain is massively under stress and overdrive.

at my onset i had the same worries. with time i realized that i just tried to play a vivid voice in my head what has to be as loud as a physical voice. later on i just knew that i have still my inner voice but it was never as loud as i believed it to be. when you were healthy you never ever checked your inner voice and evaluated if its loud or vivid or what else ever.
but my inner voice is actually not there. I try to talk to myself in my head! I try to scream in my head, but i just cant do it
I cant force my inner voice
 

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but my inner voice is actually not there. I try to talk to myself in my head! I try to scream in my head, but i just cant do it
I cant force my inner voice
no one can scream with his inner voice. youre trying something, you never tried when you was healthy. therefore you just believe its different

where come the thoughts from you can speak out loudly?
 

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no one can scream with his inner voice. youre trying something, you never tried when you was healthy. therefore you just believe its different

where come the thoughts from you can speak out loudly?
i notice that there is a difference. I cant hear songs, i Play then in my head, but they are so faint and low i can barely hear them! The same with my own voice. Its so faint and low, and this has happened over a few days
 

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Both times i experienced depersonalization i struggled with these feelings, the first time i had more prominent derealization and the second time i mostly had depersonalization. I have experienced both the feelings of blank mind and the emotional numbness you described in your post. And yes, all of these feelings go away when you start to recover but it is a very gradual process.

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Both times i experienced depersonalization i struggled with these feelings, the first time i had more prominent derealization and the second time i mostly had depersonalization. I have experienced both the feelings of blank mind and the emotional numbness you described in your post. And yes, all of these feelings go away when you start to recover but it is a very gradual process.

Marduk
Did you also experience losing your inner voice? I try to use it, but its just gone, and those few times a can hear it, its so low and faint i really struggle to even hear it. When i read i cant hear the words. I cant even force it at this point
 

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Did you also experience losing your inner voice? I try to use it, but its just gone, and those few times a can hear it, its so low and faint i really struggle to even hear it. When i read i cant hear the words. I cant even force it at this point
if you are refering to the sensation of mind emptyness and inability to think clearly. Yes i experienced it but havent for a while now.
 

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i notice that there is a difference. I cant hear songs, i Play then in my head, but they are so faint and low i can barely hear them! The same with my own voice. Its so faint and low, and this has happened over a few days
the same happened to me and i realized after a few months that my inner voice was the whole time, priorly to my onset of dpdr as well the same. youre just panicking and you are obsessed with your inner voice now. your anxiety seeks for food. normal healthy people never care about their inner voice. interesting is, not everybody has an inner voice. some people doesnt have that and they feel 100% normal and they arent ill. same is for aphantasia. but again. in a state of high anxiety those things are the latter things you should worry about.
 

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point is she or he doesnt mean that. i know exactly what she does mean and it is very normal in a state of high anxiety
No worries! The problem with dp/dr symptoms are that they are so subjective and people also tend to describe them in a different way, if they werent refering to the sense of blank mindness/ loss of inner monologue then i simply misunderstod the question. But i do agree that states of high anxiety can bring forth all manners of weird sensations and obessions that are hard to believe are even related to anxiety while you experience them.
 

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the same happened to me and i realized after a few months that my inner voice was the whole time, priorly to my onset of dpdr as well the same. youre just panicking and you are obsessed with your inner voice now. your anxiety seeks for food. normal healthy people never care about their inner voice. interesting is, not everybody has an inner voice. some people doesnt have that and they feel 100% normal and they arent ill. same is for aphantasia. but again. in a state of high anxiety those things are the latter things you should worry about.
But How can i physically experience that it changes? Like over the last few days i have physically experienced my inner voice becoming more faint, lower and distant. Now i can barely hear it at all, and i cant force it to be louder

How can i get it back How it was?
I have also lost the ability to visualize!
 

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High anxiety is like a thought blocker. Plus as you’re seeking something that used to be there when you weren’t seeking... it kinda means that “getting back” your inner monologue won’t be achieved by asking how or finding a path to it.
 

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How Did you manage to get back to normal? I miss my inner monologue and visualization
I am afraid that i really dont have anything very new or original to answer, leminaseri had some good point in his previous posts. The most important thing for me was to lower my anxiety and quit obsessing about the symptoms. Ironically the constant self analysis is a big upholder of the symptoms for many people, thats where acceptance comes in. The first time i had dp/dr i suffered for over five years because i constantly tried to find a solution and was seeking reassurance that it can go away, and i was also seeing my symptoms as a threat and reacted to them with Anxiety and desperation. Once i let go and started to see dp/dr as a coping mechanism for stress rather than brain damage i accepted it and let go of the obsession then gradually the symptoms vanished. The second time i got dp/dr after a period of heavy anxiety it only lasted a few months because i saw the symptoms for what they were and didnt resist them at all. One hint i could give you is that you should try to observe the thoughts that keep you in the loop and also to observe fluctuations in symptoms. I hope this was even a little helpfull for you.

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High anxiety is like a thought blocker. Plus as you’re seeking something that used to be there when you weren’t seeking... it kinda means that “getting back” your inner monologue won’t be achieved by asking how or finding a path to it.
Is the best way to get it back to just ignore it? And then Maybe it will come back on its own?
 

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Is the best way to get it back to just ignore it? And then Maybe it will come back on its own?
That depends on if you’re actually ignoring it (no checking and evaluating) because you can try ignore it yet still be aware of it, like it’s a problem. There isn’t actually a problem. Once you make it a problem you are caught in finding the solution
 

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That depends on if you’re actually ignoring it (no checking and evaluating) because you can try ignore it yet still be aware of it, like it’s a problem. There isn’t actually a problem. Once you make it a problem you are caught in finding the solution
Problem is i talk to myself all the time in the head normally, its just a reflex. So i just notice all the time that it is gone when i try to do that

is it also normal to have no spontanious thoughts and that your head feels empty? I also Feel really stupid
 
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