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What a load of garbage. Who do you think you are? You're no expert on DPD and treatments even though you make yourself out as some kind of super intellectual. I've read a lot of your posts and all I see is someone who's taking a cocktail of pharma meds with very little if any healing going on. I feel sorry for you in that way, but that's your choice to be so narrow minded and load yourself up with your toxic cocktail. I wonder when you're going to realise it's time to change course and look around for something that may help? Lets not talk about the highly addictive nature of the drugs you take ok. That's a battle within itself that one day you'll have to face up to..

When you actually start to recover, maybe then you can command some respect. Until then I'll continue to look at you as some naive kid experimenting with drugs obsessed with the world of science despite the fact that it's got nothing to offer for your condition.

You know something mate.. there's a whole lot of people on this site who choose not to take medication for many reasons. You seem to link the choice of not taking meds to some sort of weakness. Well the way I see it is exactly opposite. The people who don't rely 24/7 on the med cocktail can actually cope with themselves and that's a sign of inner strength, whereas you obviously can't and need to drown out your own feelings and thoughts asap. Man, you can't even cope with your own feelings and emotions and try and constantly run away from them. That's gutless where I come from.

Wake up little Britain. The pharmaceutical companies producing psyche meds aren't here to make you recover, there here to make a profit.. and you talk about how the so called 'charlatan' therapists are lining their pockets with money - have you stopped and thought about how much money you've spent on meds in the past few years? Besides, the OP was exactly right - there are NO MEDS to treat DPD (or any of the dissociative disorders) and there won't be any for many years. So stop encouraging people to chase the rainbow.

You're a troll mate. A troll who does nothing but try and push people into taking toxic meds of little or no value to their condition and at the same time you try discredit anyone speaking out about any form of 'alternative' treatment modalities. Calling people 'scaremongers' and a 'dangerous cancer' because they choose not to take meds.. how pathetic and an attempt at a low blow indeed.

And I like this one... '[background=#f7f7f7]Given the chance, they would unknowingly convince someone to commit suicide before trying medication. I invite anyone who thinks I'm wrong to a debate.' What a stupid thing to say. You're really a jerk you know that.. You can debate that one with your troll mates. [/background]

Come back when you've got something positive to offer....
 

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: '[background=#f7f7f7]I've noticed that there seems to be a negative correlation between intelligence and an anti-medication viewpoint on this forum. '[/background]

Zed: 'Wake up little Britain. The pharmaceutical companies producing psyche meds aren't here to make you recover, there here to make a profit.. '

Yep...I agree with you Elliott. What a berk. Many good people are alive solely because of so-called 'toxic cocktails'. Should my friend stop taking insulin for diabetes because it's 'unnatural' and not the 'core' way she really is? What an offensive idiot.
 

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Zed has just sent me this in a PM, thought I'd reply in public rather than being nasty in private.

'You know what?.. I was going to have a go at you for calling me an offensive idiot.. then I read your topic "Pharmaceutical advice'. Looks like you've got more troubles than you'll be able to manage anyway.. I prefer to just let you suffer without stirring the pot. Reading through some of what you've written, you obviously don't have much insight into what this disorder is or why you've got it - 2 rather essential pieces of information if you want to heal.

Good luck with plying yourself with useless meds matey! You'll soon see for yourself what I mean about the 'toxic cocktail', though of course you'll never admit it...

Your arrogance will get you nowhere.

Good bye and get fucked.'

Here's my reply.

'You wrote something grossly offensive to those who are only alive because of medication. Guess what - I went down the same route as you, believing that I could make myself invincible without medication and sort out my 'core self'. Then my world crashed down on me. It didn't work, for me. I'm not saying it won't for you - I wouldn't be that crass and presumptuous.

You tell those who are desperately struggling that the things which keep them functional are 'toxic cocktails'. You have no knowledge of their situations. Yet in a hilarious irony, you speak of arrogance.

For all your talk of improving yourself, you have a long way to go as you have behaved in a vile, standoffish manner which is unprompted and unnecessary.

' I prefer to just let you suffer'

Disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself. Go away yourself.'
 

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Unfortunately this is what many actually do. Although depersonalization disorder might affect 1% of the population there are no self-help organizations that advocate the interests of the depersonalized. This is because I think that the ignorance of psychiatry is partly a fault of the sufferers themselves, who did not stand up to fight for their rights.
Exactly, lets start an organisation
 
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Zed has just sent me this in a PM, thought I'd reply in public rather than being nasty in private.

'You know what?.. I was going to have a go at you for calling me an offensive idiot.. then I read your topic "Pharmaceutical advice'. Looks like you've got more troubles than you'll be able to manage anyway.. I prefer to just let you suffer without stirring the pot. Reading through some of what you've written, you obviously don't have much insight into what this disorder is or why you've got it - 2 rather essential pieces of information if you want to heal.

Good luck with plying yourself with useless meds matey! You'll soon see for yourself what I mean about the 'toxic cocktail', though of course you'll never admit it...

Your arrogance will get you nowhere.

Good bye and get fucked.'

Here's my reply.

'You wrote something grossly offensive to those who are only alive because of medication. Guess what - I went down the same route as you, believing that I could make myself invincible without medication and sort out my 'core self'. Then my world crashed down on me. It didn't work, for me. I'm not saying it won't for you - I wouldn't be that crass and presumptuous.

You tell those who are desperately struggling that the things which keep them functional are 'toxic cocktails'. You have no knowledge of their situations. Yet in a hilarious irony, you speak of arrogance.

For all your talk of improving yourself, you have a long way to go as you have behaved in a vile, standoffish manner which is unprompted and unnecessary.

' I prefer to just let you suffer'

Disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself. Go away yourself.'
I'll lock this topic if it can't be constructive. That being said, If ANY MEMBER pulls crap like that in PM again, you will no longer have access to that privilege. Simple enough.
 

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Personally I believe benzos are the best, because dp/dr is only truly a problem when it makes you too anxious to function. If you have no anxiety, dp/dr ceases to be an issue. If you can avoid anxiety long enough to get a good nights sleep, dp/dr will definitely begin to lift.
 

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Personally I believe benzos are the best, because dp/dr is only truly a problem when it makes you too anxious to function. If you have no anxiety, dp/dr ceases to be an issue. If you can avoid anxiety long enough to get a good nights sleep, dp/dr will definitely begin to lift.
Luckily for most people the relation between dpd, drd and anxiety seems to be so strong that if anxiety is less, dpd, drd will be alleviated.

But benzo's are a patch on an open wound, they will give you temorary relief, by surpressing fears and promoting sleep.

However... what happens, when the patch no longer works, which is the case when benzo tolerance kicks in?

Yes the open wound will fester and causes more harm then pre-benzo's. My dpd, drd has been more intense then ever since tapering Klonopin,

even though my post-withdrawal anxiety, which was sky high for 9 months, has been significantly reduced by meditation and yes medication...

This might sound a bit harsh and negative, but I'm not only reciting from my own experiences. Benzo's are by all means no wonderdrug or dpd, drd cure!

Every medication has it's advantages and dangers though. Every individual is unique, that's why this community is so valuable.

Sharing experiences, knowledge, insights et cetera. Please do not condemn fellow sufferers or their views and actions in PM's or posts.

No individual on this board is all knowing, but together we can come a long way!
 
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Luckily for most people the relation between dpd, drd and anxiety seems to be so strong that if anxiety is less, dpd, drd will be alleviated.

But benzo's are a patch on an open wound, they will give you temorary relief, by surpressing fears and promoting sleep.

However... what happens, when the patch no longer works, which is the case when benzo tolerance kicks in?

Yes the open wound will fester and causes more harm then pre-benzo's. My dpd, drd has been more intense then ever since tapering Klonopin,

even though my post-withdrawal anxiety, which was sky high for 9 months, has been significantly reduced by meditation and yes medication...

This might sound a bit harsh and negative, but I'm not only reciting from my own experiences. Benzo's are by all means no wonderdrug or dpd, drd cure!

Every medication has it's advantages and dangers though. Every individual is unique, that's why this community is so valuable.

Sharing experiences, knowledge, insights et cetera. Please do not condemn fellow sufferers or their views and actions in PM's or posts.

No individual on this board is all knowing, but together we can come a long way!
Benzos are not a fix, just like luctor said, we've both been on high doses of klonopin and to be honest it helped for a little while but now i'm in the seventh circle of hell. There is no need to go on them, you'll thank me for telling you this, no one told me 10 years ago.
 

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approximately 8-9 people killed themselves after reading this thread.
 
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