I don't Want to sound rude, but i think that 75/80% of people Who have dp/dr have not a "problem with a trauma'. It sounds so stupid when i read that dp is a way to don't make you suffer because... Dp Means Extreme sufference! A lot of People take dp and dr from drug use, so, the problem is not a stupid trauma but chemistrals in our brain!
Am i the only One Who disagrees with people Who Say that dp/dr is all' about trauma?
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You should not be so rude. That's my opinion. I suffer from this shit since 2013 and my Life is totally ruined, and when i hear that is really Easy to heal because it's all about trauma, well, i get angry because there are a lot of other things in our Brain.
Emotional numbing has most likely prevented some of us from experiencing hate. It's really interesting that you are able to experience that emotion.
Which particular traumas do you consider to be stupid?
It changes things a bit when the word hate is replaced with disagrees, nvm
Actually it makes a ton of sense why the brain would do this. It's basically the same mechanism as to when you go into shock. Your body is stressed and is experiencing trauma when you go into shock. To block the experience, your brain numbs you. That's why most people don't remember anything that happened when they go into shock. The brain basically goes into survival mode. Same concept with emotional trauma. When that trauma keeps causing anxiety, it puts a ton of stress on the body and the brain gets tired from constant worrying. Eventually it goes into "survival" mode to try and protect you. The brain doesn't know that this feeling actually creates more suffering but it does need time to rest and is just trying to protect you from any threats. Remember, anxiety causes the same reaction as our "fight or flight" mechanism. So I feel that the brain doesn't always know if there is an actual threat or not which is why going into DP is considered a protective mechanism. I get that there are many avenues to getting DP/DR, but as far as I'm concerned, most of the people I know who have gotten this after doing drugs had a panic attack while being high. Hope this helps
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I didn't have any traumatic experience before DP.
But for what it's worth, the state of DP/DR is very traumatic in and of itself.
Some even got it out of nowhere, no trigger, just out of the blue, which is basically what happened to myself as well.
But for what it's worth, the state of DP/DR is very traumatic in and of itself.
Some even got it out of nowhere, no trigger, just out of the blue, which is basically what happened to myself as well.
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Tell us more about those chemistrals.
Im not a doctor but i know that neurotransmiters are involved in dp and dr.
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To be honest I dont actually give a f**k what caused my DP....I just want to know the cure for it 
I agree Eddy, I agree.
Forget the cause, we all have it, lets just focus on how to get better day by day...
FOR ME...
I actually TODAY went to a private Endocrinologist at £165 (this is in N.I where that is say £250 in [Redacted]) and he said my sleep was not a blood or hormone thing, he looked at my MRI and said this was FOR ME and my symptoms, a nervous system thing, i've never had anyone be that conclusive but this was a top rated doctor for Endo in N.I, he told me to not waste time with a P Doc any longer and go to a good Neurologist and he would write to my GP.
No this isn't a cure, but my symptoms to him were red flags, I don't sleep over a week as i've mentioned....yep rare, but obviously the cause of what I experience. He said he couldn't believe what they had tried and that I needed to treat the nervous system... he was Chinese and had that great frank way of talking, he knew exactly what DP was and explained how out of balance my system is, he did this hand thing where he put P docs down low, under his chest and Neurology above his head when i talked about how my p doc treats me with my symptoms. He also told me basically in a few words not to listen and that the nervous system doesn't work on good thoughts. Doesn't mean you can't beat DP without good living, but if it isn't anxiety loop, which he agreed saying as I can stay up days, it's a different cause, for me, he was very sure my nervous system was way too out of balance.
Not saying you should all run to one, but he confirmed that my level of 'hyper stimulation' which i said to my p doc and got things like 'have a quiet life'...utter rubbish.
Just sharing as for me, after a while of searching, i've met someone who deeply understood and looked at my symptoms and all the medications i've ever tried...to him, i was in the total wrong department. He said that many times... £165 well spent.
He agreed with Mirtazapine and Zyprexa that was working for a while, but said if i couldn't sleep on that, well there is deeper issues than mental health and had a clear distinction between the nervous system and mental health. He is on the top rated doctors in Northern Ireland, that's why I went.
Not everyone can relate, but as always, it's an individual journey. For me it seems 'hyper stimulation' - believe me, if you have this you'll know, you don't feel tired...ever
Forget the cause, we all have it, lets just focus on how to get better day by day...
FOR ME...
I actually TODAY went to a private Endocrinologist at £165 (this is in N.I where that is say £250 in [Redacted]) and he said my sleep was not a blood or hormone thing, he looked at my MRI and said this was FOR ME and my symptoms, a nervous system thing, i've never had anyone be that conclusive but this was a top rated doctor for Endo in N.I, he told me to not waste time with a P Doc any longer and go to a good Neurologist and he would write to my GP.
No this isn't a cure, but my symptoms to him were red flags, I don't sleep over a week as i've mentioned....yep rare, but obviously the cause of what I experience. He said he couldn't believe what they had tried and that I needed to treat the nervous system... he was Chinese and had that great frank way of talking, he knew exactly what DP was and explained how out of balance my system is, he did this hand thing where he put P docs down low, under his chest and Neurology above his head when i talked about how my p doc treats me with my symptoms. He also told me basically in a few words not to listen and that the nervous system doesn't work on good thoughts. Doesn't mean you can't beat DP without good living, but if it isn't anxiety loop, which he agreed saying as I can stay up days, it's a different cause, for me, he was very sure my nervous system was way too out of balance.
Not saying you should all run to one, but he confirmed that my level of 'hyper stimulation' which i said to my p doc and got things like 'have a quiet life'...utter rubbish.
Just sharing as for me, after a while of searching, i've met someone who deeply understood and looked at my symptoms and all the medications i've ever tried...to him, i was in the total wrong department. He said that many times... £165 well spent.
He agreed with Mirtazapine and Zyprexa that was working for a while, but said if i couldn't sleep on that, well there is deeper issues than mental health and had a clear distinction between the nervous system and mental health. He is on the top rated doctors in Northern Ireland, that's why I went.
Not everyone can relate, but as always, it's an individual journey. For me it seems 'hyper stimulation' - believe me, if you have this you'll know, you don't feel tired...ever
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I'm not sure it's healthy for us to make blanket statements on what percent of people with DP have suffered trauma in their lifetime. None of us know the answer to this and more importantly there's no point in finding out. There are clearly people here who claim to have gotten DP without suffering trauma and nobody should doubt them. But choosing to ignore the absolutely innumerable connections to additional mental health issues on this site, the links to previous traumas, the suffering, the suicidal tendencies and so on would make no sense whatsoever. Again, as I've pointed out many times, it's clearly evident DP is a highly complex condition with many variations including cause, which makes any sort of blanket statement irrelevant from the get go.
The only additional suggestion I'd throw out there for those who feel they've arrived at a DP state without a traumatic background is to really consider how closely they've examined their lives, especially their childhood, as trauma can manifest in all sorts of different forms and doesn't at all belong exclusively to major life events. I know in my case it's taken years to study my family and my upbringing, but I now understand exactly why I'm where I'm at and am only now realizing how damaging my childhood was. Also, I'm of the belief DP often has roots in infancy which would explain why some may have actually suffered a trauma but can't recall it because it's too early to register in their memory. Again, I'm not saying this is the case for everyone, just that it's worth considering.
The only additional suggestion I'd throw out there for those who feel they've arrived at a DP state without a traumatic background is to really consider how closely they've examined their lives, especially their childhood, as trauma can manifest in all sorts of different forms and doesn't at all belong exclusively to major life events. I know in my case it's taken years to study my family and my upbringing, but I now understand exactly why I'm where I'm at and am only now realizing how damaging my childhood was. Also, I'm of the belief DP often has roots in infancy which would explain why some may have actually suffered a trauma but can't recall it because it's too early to register in their memory. Again, I'm not saying this is the case for everyone, just that it's worth considering.
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Excellent observations....It also took me years of analysis of my childhood and family life to understand why I grew up anxious and rigid...I would have thought that I had a happy childhood and a good childhood but after much research and study and observations of what it was like for me way back I know now I was pretty traumatised by so called small things as well as big things...
The problem was that when I was younger it seemed like the norm for me...Turns out my father and mothers behaviours were far from the norm...Unfortunately when young people grow up having nice material things and proper meals and in a clean, warm environment they believe they have had happy childhoods...
The truth is the Dads drinking or the mothers OCD or the parents arguing late at night or the bullying in school etc etc has a damaging lasting effect on a young mind....We learn to dissociate at an early age....We tune out subconsciously....We grow up into our teens with these learned behaviours but we dont understand its not exactly normal because it it is regular behaviour for us....We think nothing of our methods of tuning out mentally because we have grown up with these coping mechanisms...
I often now look back at my childhood and can identify moments where I now know I was tuning out (Dissociating) Moments were I started fantasizing or moments were I started observing life in a different way to everyone else or moments were I thought I had a new special insight into life or moments were I thought I was in some way different or more special or cleverer than others etc etc etc....It was all Dissociation behaviour because I didnt like or couldnt cope with what was going on around me.......
I always secretly felt like something was odd about me though when I was younger....Especially compared to other kids around me...I kinda always had this suspicious kinda sixth sense that I was slighlty different and looked at things differently.....I always kinda felt slightly more observant or intuitive than other kids...Almost like I always thought about and observed life on a different plain to the other kids around me...
You could say that I was pre-disposed and a prime candidtae for developing DP simply because I was a much more sensitive individual...We all have that in common I think....We are all hyper sensitive from the get go...Now throw drug and alcohol abuse etc in on top of that and basically it becomes a ticking time bomb...The bomb eventually explodes and the result is the messed up mental state that is Chronic Depersonalization...
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