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So this may seem sort of crazy, but I now have a theory as to what may be possibly causing my DP/DR.

I recently had a girl friend of mine stay at my house because she was in need of a temporary place to live. Basically her boyfriend broke up with her and she didn't have anywhere to go, although.. she's also my ex-girlfriend! Sort of awkward haha, but besides the point.

The past 3 nights she has been sleeping in my bed, but as of yesterday, she started to get sick. Her symptoms were; itchy eyes, watering eyes, nausea, upset stomach, the feeling of needing to vomit but then not actually vomiting. When she told me this, and I saw that she really was having these symptoms, something clicked in my head about another past relationship I had where another girl I dated would wake up in MY bed in the morning, and immediately feel nauseous with the same feeling of the potential for vomiting, but then never actually vomiting. This ONLY happened at my house..

I then proceeded to ask ANOTHER girl friend if she had any of the same symptoms when waking up in my bed, and she said she would sometimes have headaches and sinus issues, but then when she left my house, all the symptoms would go away within an hour or so.

This got me thinking because I have had CHRONIC respiratory distress, mucus, and sinus infections/pressure for nearly a year now. Until today, I had always assumed that it was just because of my dog's hair, the air quality where I live, or the occasional cigarette I would bum off of a friend when hanging out with them (I don't smoke regularly, or buy cigarettes). But maybe it's something else? Another thing I have noticed is that over the past two years or so, it seems that any injuries of the skin take a lot longer to heal than they used to..

This got me curious as to maybe there is some sort of mold in my bed or pillows that I have been unaware of until now. I then was able to recall a few instances where I had spilled water on my bed and not really done anything about it but let it dry, and I also recalled a few times in the past two years where I had very serious fevers, and would sweat huge puddles into my bed, again.. only really letting it dry with a fan because.. well what else do you do? Mold likes to grow in warm, damp, and dark environments.

So I started doing some research into mold toxicity, mold syndrome, and other mold related illnesses.. and the results I found were absolutely shocking. (I HAVE UNDERLINED AND BOLD-ED THE ONES THAT REALLY STOOD OUT TO ME)


  • Allergy problems,increase in allergies (number, sensitivity, reactions, lengthier reactions)
  • Back pain, stiffness, tension, pressure, soreness, spasms, immobility in the back or back muscles
  • Blanching (looking pale, loss of color in the face or skin)
  • Blushing, turning red, flushed face, flushed skin, blushing, red face or skin
  • Body aches, parts of or your entire body feels sore and achy, feels like your body and muscles are bruised
  • Body jolts/Body zaps (OP Note: A lot of people when they first develop DP/DR get body and brain zaps!)
  • Body shakes/Body tremors
  • Body temperature increase or decrease, change in body temperature
  • Burning skin, itchy, "crawly," pricklyother skin sensations, skin sensitivity, numbness on the skin
  • Burning skin sensation on the face, neck, ears, scalp, or shoulders
  • Buzzing sensation in the feet, toes, hands, fingers, arms, legs
  • Chest pain, chest tightness
  • Choking
  • Chronic Fatigue, exhaustion, super tired, worn out
  • Clumsiness, feeling clumsy, co-ordination problems with the limbs or body
  • Cold chills, feeling cold
  • Craving sugar, sweets, chocolate, usual craving for sugar and sweets
  • Difficulty speaking, moving mouth, talking, co-ordination problems with the mouth or tongue
  • Dizziness, feeling lightheaded/Dizzy, feeling dizzy
  • Electric shock feeling, body zaps
  • Excess of energy, you feel you can't relax
  • Falling sensation, feel like your are falling or dropping even though you aren't
  • Feel like you are going to pass out or faint
  • Feeling cold or chilled
  • Feel wrong, different, foreign, odd, or strange
  • Flu-like symptoms, general malaise, feel ill, like you are coming down with a flu
  • Flushed face, red face, flushed skin
  • Frequent urination
  • Hair loss, hair is thinning, or clumps of hair are falling out
  • Head Zaps (OP Note: A lot of people when they first develop DP/DR get body and brain zaps!)
  • Heart palpitations, racing heart
  • Hyperactivity, excess energy, nervous energy
  • Increased or decreased sex drive
  • Infection - increased infections, persistent infection
  • Mouth or throat clicking or grating sound/noise when you move your mouth or jaw, such as when talking
  • Muscles that vibrate, jitter, tremor, or shake when used
  • Muscle twitching
  • Nausea / vomiting
  • Neck, back, shoulder pain, tightness/stiffness
  • Night sweats, waking up in a sweat, profusely sweating at night
  • No energy, feeling lethargic, tired
  • Numbness and tingling, and other skin sensations on hands, feet, face, head, or any other places on the body
  • Persistent muscle tension, stiffness
  • Pounding heart, heart feels like it is beating too hard
  • Pulsing or throbbing muscles.
  • Pulsing or throbbing sensation.
  • Red skin, skin looks like or is turning red
  • Rib or rib cage tightness, pressure, or feeling like a tight band around the rib cage
  • Sexual Dysfunction, sexual uninterest
  • Shooting pains, stabbing pains, and odd pressures in the neck, head, or face
  • Shooting pains in the face
  • Shooting pains in the scalp or head
  • Skipped heart beats
  • Sore or tight scalp or back of the neck
  • Startle easily
  • Sweating, uncontrollable profuse sweating
  • The floor feels like it is moving either down or up for no reason
  • Tingling sensations, anywhere on the body, including the hands, feet, legs, arms, head, mouth, chest, groin area
  • Throat or mouth clicking or grating sound/noise when you move your mouth or jaw, such as when talkingTMJ
  • Trembling, shaking, tremorsTwitching
  • Unsteadiness, dizziness, feeling dizzy or lightheaded
  • Urgency to urinate, frequent urination, sudden urge to go to the washroom (similar to urinary tract or prostate infection symptoms
  • Warm spells
  • Weak - feel weak, weakness, low energy, light, soft, like you may faint
  • Weak legs, arms, or muscles
  • Weight loss, weight gain

Chest (anxiety symptoms commonly associated with the chest area):

  • Chest tremors, trembling in the chest, chest feels like it is vibrating
  • Chest pain or discomfort
  • Concern about the heart
  • Feel like you have to force yourself to breath
  • Find it hard to breath, feeling smothered, shortness of breath
  • Frequent yawning to try and catch your breath
  • Heart Palpitations - beating hard or too fast, rapid heartbeat
  • Heart - Irregular heart rhythms, flutters or 'skipped' beats, tickle in the chest that makes you cough
  • Pounding heart, heart feels like it is beating too hard
  • Rib or rib cage tightness, pressure, or feeling like a tight band around the rib cage

Emotions (see mood) (anxiety symptoms commonly associated with emotions, mood, and feelings)
Fears (anxiety symptoms commonly associated with fear):

  • A heightened fear of what people think of you
  • Afraid of being trapped in a place with no exits
  • Constant feeling of being overwhelmed.
  • Fear of being in public
  • Fear of dying
  • Fear of losing control
  • Fear of impending doom
  • Fear of making mistakes or making a fool of yourself to others
  • Fear of passing out
  • Fear that you are losing your mind
  • Fears about irrational things, objects, circumstances, or situations
  • Fears of going crazy, of dying, of impending doom, of normal things, unusual feelings and emotions, unusually frightening thoughts or feelings
  • Heightened self awareness, or self-consciousness
  • Need to find nearest washrooms before you can feel comfortable
  • Need to seat near exits

Head (anxiety symptoms commonly associated with the head):

  • Brain fog
  • Burning, itchy, tight scalp
  • Dizziness
  • Dizziness or lightheaded
  • Frequent headaches, migraine headaches
  • Feeling like there is a tight band around your head, pressure, tightness
  • Hair loss, hair is thinning, or clumps of hair are falling out
  • Head, neck or shoulder pain, tightness/stiffness
  • Head zaps, head tremors
  • Giddiness
  • Numbness tingling
  • Shooting pains, stabbing pains, and odd pressures in the neck, head, or face
  • Shooting pains in the face
  • Shooting pains in the scalp or head
  • When you close your eyes you feel like are beginning to, or will, float upwards
  • Sore jaw that feels like a tooth ache
  • TMJ (Temporo-Mandibular Joint) - clenching of the jaw or grinding of the teeth (OP Note: I highlighted this because I clench my jaw nearly all day long..)

Hearing/Ear(s) (anxiety symptoms commonly associated with hearing):

  • Feel like there is something stuck in your ear, that your ear canal it plugged or blocked, that there is a pebble in your ear that you can't get out
  • Low rumbling sounds
  • Reduced hearing, frequent or intermittent reduced hearing or deafness in one or both ears
  • Ringing in the ears, noises in the ears, noises in the head
  • Pulsing in the ears, throbbing sound in the ear(s)
  • Tickle or itch in your ear that you can't seem to get at

Mind (anxiety symptoms commonly associated with the mind and thinking) :

  • Afraid of everything
  • Altered state of reality, consciousness, or universe feeling1
  • Brain Fog
  • Deja Vu, a feeling like you've done or experienced something before
  • Depersonalization (!!!)
  • Derealization (!!!)
  • Desensitization
  • Difficulty concentrating, short-term memory loss
  • Difficulty thinking, speaking, forming thoughts, following conversations
  • Disorientation
  • Fear of going crazy
  • Fear of losing control
  • Fear of impending doom
  • Feelings of unreality
  • Frequent feeling of being overwhelmed, or that there is just too much to handle or do
  • Having difficulty concentrating
  • Nightmares, bad dreams
  • Obsession about sensations or getting better
  • Repetitive thinking or incessant 'mind chatter'
  • Short-term learning impairment, have a hard time learning new information
  • Short-term memory impairment, can't remember what I did a few days, hours, or moments ago
  • Spaced out feelings, feeling spaced out
  • "Stuck" thoughts; thoughts, mental images, concepts, songs, or melodies that "stick" in your mind and replay over and over again.
  • Trapped in your mind feeling
  • Underlying anxiety, apprehension, or fear
  • You often feel you are carrying the world on your shoulders

Mood / Emotions (anxiety symptoms commonly associated with mood, emotions, and feelings):

  • Always feeling angry and lack of patience
  • Depersonalization
  • Depression
  • Dramatic mood swings (emotional flipping)
  • Emotionally blunted, flat, or numb
  • Emotional "flipping" (dramatic mood swings)
  • Emotions feel wrong
  • Everything is scary, frightening
  • Feeling down in the dumps
  • Feeling like things are unreal or dreamlike
  • Frequently being on edge or 'grouchy'
  • Feel like crying for no apparent reason
  • Have no feelings about things you used to
  • Not feeling like yourself, detached from loved ones, emotionally numb


I do realize that a lot of these symptoms are symptoms of VARIOUS different illnesses, and the list may seem BROAD or REPETITIVE, but with my given current circumstances, and the symptoms of past girlfriends I listed, it seemed like a definite possibility.

I searched a few other websites about the cognitive and psychiatric effects of mold toxicity and mold exposure, and a lot of websites said things about:

  1. Fatigue and weakness
  2. Headache, light sensitivity
  3. Poor memory, difficult word finding
  4. Difficulty concentrating or focusing

Here are some other websites links to more about MOLD TOXICITY and ILLNESS with symptoms listed! A lot of which match with DP/DR symptoms!

I know there has also been other past theories about CANDIDA overgrowth being the cause of SOME PEOPLE'S chronic DP/DR, and my thought now is that maybe this COULD be the cause, as well as other fungal overgrowths or toxicities in the body due to environmental problems, or diet.

What do you guys think?

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You can't be doing too poorly if you're having all these girls waking up in your bed! ????

Only joking, I think maybe you really are onto something and I'm curious for myself too because I'm pretty sure there's mold in my air conditioning!

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Yes molds / fungi in general release tons of toxins that can cause tons of symptoms. It could explain the symptoms your girlfriends have experienced and yours.

Though I'm sure that's not what you meant, but most people don't get DP from fungal infections, while it's a possibility in your case yes (especially if it wasn't caused by an identifiable factor) unlike those to whom it happens after a trauma (which is the most common source of DP).

I personally do not have those physical symptoms, except those that are stress-induced like feeling tired. And the emotional symptoms are common to any person experiencing DP / DR, depression or anxiety for whatever reasons.

Getting rid of those supposed molds would be the solution if they are the supposed cause, have you tried it, did some blood tests, medical exams ?

Best of luck

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Hey guys. Update. I recently got a wrap for my bed that blocks mold and dust-mites. I have seen improvement in my allergies, but not much other than that. It has only been about two weeks though, and any sort of fungal infection can take A LONG TIME to leave the body. Will update more if anything changes.

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I really think you might be onto something, and it's definitely interesting. I normally always have my house and bed clean, so I'm not sure that that's my problem specifically, but it might be yours as well as others, so I think it's awesome that you did share this!

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All these symptoms are caused by breathing dry and dusty air. I assume you have an air conditioner in that room that wasn't cleaned for a long period, and that is collecting a lot of dust that you are breathing. I recommend you immediately get in touch with A/C experts in this situation. Otherwise, this can cause you severe health problems. For instance, when I want to clean my air conditioner, I always call the guys from So I will also advise you to call your local air conditioning service.

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I’m not sure why you felt it necessary to preface your post by saying “this might sound crazy.” It doesn’t sound crazy at all to think that organic symptoms of dissociation, brain fog, dizziness, and fatigue/weakness might be due to some organic source. It doesn’t necessarily mean that IS what is causing you to feel sick, but it certainly could be for some people. Thank you for sharing this.
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