[peaceboy23]

I'm not sure if this is ok to post here, but I'm curious if there are any other chlidren of alcoholics on this board, who think that this is a major part of their dp/dr. I just took an "adult chilldren of alcoholics quiz" and scored an 18 out of 20. It says, with a ninety percent, it is likely i have been "profoundly affected by the drinking of someone else. I would really like to talk with somene about this, especailly the way that it feeds the dp/dr and relationship with parents. You can contact me at either [email protected] or on AIM at peaceboyono. Thanks.

 

[person3]

try al-anon maybe?

the alcoholic mindset, which is similar to the addiction mindset, are both almost exactly like the obsessive mindset that breeds dp/dr.

the main difference between addiction and dp/dr is that one person's symptom is drug use while the others is mental. but they're both rooted in the same bed of obsessions and non-acceptance of reality.

so i think that if you were a) raised in such an environment and b) containing the genetic makeup for an obsessive-type disorder, it would make perfect sense. fortunately both are curable!

 

[dalailama15]

I think you have to take all this AA stuff with a huge grain of salt. There is no science at all behind these kinds of diagnoses--a "quiz" from Adult Children of Alcoholics means absolutely nothing. To them, anyone who has ever abused alcohol is an alcoholic. And anyone who is an alcoholic has a peculiar "disease," that "no human power" can treat. The ONLY treatment is to turn your will and your life over to god and ask him to remove this defect. As a child of an alcoholic, you are taught to understand this peculiar disease, the powerlessness of those who have it, and then to turn your own will and life over to god.

This is a tremendous load of crap. Imagine going to a doctor with some disease, and being told the only cure is to have a "spiritual awakening."

The DSMIV does not even list alcoholism as a disorder, but rather, has two categories: substance abuse and substance dependence.

Bill Wilson stole his "program" from this pathetic maniac called Frank Buchman, substituting the world "alcoholic" for the word "sinner." But the program is the same. It is crackpot theology. Nothing more.

 

[jake]

The American Medical Association in 1956 declared Alcoholism an Illness. It is physical. It is progressive. It has a predictable pattern of symptoms. It is fatal if left untreated. I'm talking b/cuz I know.

A.A. also cannot be held accountable for some misinformed person's opinion that "anyone whoever abused alcohol is an alcoholic."
I've yet to see a social drinker walk thru the doors wondering if they had a problem in 21 years I've been in AA.

Nobody in AA diagnoses anyone else. It's one's own decison to make, based on their own experience. If a person can relate and can find help, I wouldn't consider it a load of crap.
--jake

 

[person3]

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on a basis of "what eva"