[laserdog]

like all english males....when not feelin dp......i live purely for football drink and woman!! surely people can relate to this! yet obviously when dp kicks in everything changes!! i have read things that people belive alcahol encourages or makes dp worse!.............personally i disagree when in the social environment. i'm more awre of mysely and can relate to others...more so coz i have to, because of the feeling of being forced to mix, you end up forgetting aboutyour dp state!! the situatuion means you have to mix which in turns brings you back into reality ( if that makes any sense) situations that force you to act "normal" i find are for the best...... actively doing things and interacting with other is benificial for me personally!!!

yet in the background dp is still there but maintaining a sense of being like the rest is where we want to be!!! and eventually we will fall back into existance!!!

can any1 relate to what i have just said?

 

[jc]

have a few beers,watch football and chat to people that are out there living....it helps,just dont get rat arsed....the only time i become unstuck is when friends ask the usual question 'so jc where are you working now'
i just tell them 'oh you know bit of this,bit of that,' it seems to shut them up,but to be fair ive recieved quite a few cash jobs while meeting old friends who want there grass cut,guttering fixed,wooden decking put down etc...

drink by all meens but dont get drunk!

 

[mcsiegs]

I agree with JC. Drinking without getting trashed is great for DP, especially in a social setting. When you get trashed, though, it may come back that night, or worse yet, the next morning with a vengeance.

 

[jc]

i hate to sound like an ol fart but ive tried and tested mixing dp and anxiety states with alcohol and as mcsiegs states getting trashed will bring back dp/anxiety with a vengance....four pints of low alcohol beer is my limit now

 

[rich]

mate im exactly the same - love football, love girls and love going out. its like the only time when i begin to feel slightly like myself is when im out with the boys and having a few beers. chatting to people and getting tipsy, I dont go out and get smashed but i have enough to make me feel buzzing.

the next morning is usually nasty tho - feel really spaced out and depressed. so i try to limit my drinking to once a week.

also understand when you said about people asking you where your working/what are you up to etc. really gets to me cos i immediately think what am i doing, where is my life going, what has happened to me.

i hate this shit, i used to love life - how I have to have a few drinks to feel myself again, but even then i still feel a shadow of my former self. such a sad waste

 

[stickdude]

alcohol makes my dp/dr and anxiety go away, but the next day, i get panicky pretty bad. i usually hesitate thinking about the next day before drinking because i feel so bad.

 

[Isobel]

im the same as stickdude, i always feel bad the next day

i like beer, but once you get the taste for it again, its hard to stop ????

 

[Monkeydust]

Same. I'll feel fine whilst I'm actually on the alcohol, and I'll get to sleep no problem. The next day, though, things are ever so much worse - I'll feel like I did a couple of months before.

Apparently it's due to GABA, or something.

 

[Guest]

Drugs caused my DP/DR, i have DP more than DR too be honest. I used to batter cocaine, ecstacy, speed weed, everything. I lost the plot while on drugs and i started to get dp it rollercoasted into what i though was permanent insanity.........

I was 18 at the time, and it took 2 yrs but i progressively popped out of it.

that was 3 years ago, i had a couple of relapses but only for 2/3 days at a time so nothing serious.

Until last month!! I split up with girlfriend 6 months ago and went on the biggest drinking binge and after a particular bad 3 day bender, i woke up with that horrific feeling again, its been 6 weeks and though im able to function i can't pop out of it again. Anyway the basis of the reply is alcohol is fine in moderation, and i ffel beter after a few, but im writing this now and im on another planet wondering what i am, why i am etc........

Dont get drunk like i did last night is what im trying to say!!!!!

 

[Synapse]

Hi people

Today I encountered an SAS soldier. He told me he never took drugs but I'm not one for believeing that.

I wonder what the entry requirements are and background checks?

 

[sming]

Heh I never realised there were so many blokes out there just like me i.e. just wanting beers and footy (and a nice lass) but DR/anxiety/depression are in the way.

I've been messed up for about 10 years now and, as someone on this thread's sig says, it's such a waste of a life but hey, what you gonna do - try and sort it or cry into your pint? (A mix of both is my approach I would guess...).

I also find that a moderate amount of booze is really beneficial in "living in the now" as I call it. I also find that loads of booze is good but you pay an awesome price the next day. Today for example, after having about 5 pints last night, my anxiety and DR thinking was just unstoppable, sigh.

Laters,
pete

 

[mulder]

I don't think this applies to DR, only to DP, at least for me anyway. I'm about 99% sure I've only got DR, as I rarely feel like I don't exist, I just feel that the world around me isn't real, and I don't have as strong emotional connection to things as I did, amongst other things.

Alchohol for me, doesn't help at all. When I first got DR, being drunk DID make me feel normal again, as far as being normal when your drunk goes, which isn't really feeling normal. It started to have a bad effect on me though, so I stopped drinking. I already feel drunk / stoned, and adding to that with a pint now doesn't help me at all. Aside from the morning after, actually being even slightly tipsy sends me into a really dark world. I'm glad that I've been able to stop drinking, although I still feel like I'd enjoy a pint now and then if it didn't mess me up.

The alchohol may just be one part of the social situation which takes your mind off the DP, and without it you may not feel that all the parts of the situation are there. You are used to drinking when being with mates, so you need to be drunk for it to feel right. But, when you get used to being there and being sober, you will eventually not need the alchohol to make the situation complete.

As long as my best mate is making me laugh all night, I'm usually fine (if I'm not having any problems with laughing so much making me feel dizzy, which is another problem that came along with the DR for me). The DR is always there, but my mind is taken off of it, as it is when I'm engorssed with something on the interenet.

Personally, footy can f*** off, I just want girls, a good laugh, and good music. Pitty that only the laugh is really accesible to me most of the time

 

[Martinelv]

Me too. Being English, I have nothing else to aspire to in my worthless life other than Manchester United, chasing women and boozing myself to oblivion. Saying that, my interest in booze has diminished since I 'accidently' had a couple of pints of cider on top of some Augmentin (antibiotic) the other day. Jesus, was I ill......

DR/DP & hangovers do not mix. But then again, life is short.

 

[klt123]

hey sming i was wondering how i could email you...??

 

[sming]

hey sming i was wondering how i could email you...??

you can drop me a mail at xxx if you like. I hope no-one's developed phishing software that interprets <AT> and <DOT> or I am doomed to spam-death!

 

[Guest]

hey sming i was wondering how i could email you...??

you can drop me a mail at peterkingswell<AT>gmail<DOT>com if you like. I hope no-one's developed phishing software that interprets <AT> and <DOT> or I am doomed to spam-death!

Gmail has spam and phishing filters.

(Weird how I know this - I got a reminder that I haven't logged into my account since I registered it, and had a browse of the site)

 

[peaceboy23]

I can connect with this totally! Wednesday night, I got really, really drunk, and the next day I had the worse feeling I have ever had in my mind, though for sure i was collapsing into a terrified insanity. I actually left work early on thursday for only teh second time ever, and stayed with my parents becasue I was scared to be alone. Then i was a little better on Friday but on Friday night again, I got drunk, and today was horrible. I came to my parent/s again, becuase i got the feeling again, and it tends to last all day, i'm feeling slightly better right now, but part of that may be because i'm concentrating on this and a few other things. I haven't tried moderate drinking, but for now I'm decided that i need to take a sabbatical from alcohol. My mom thought maybe part of the problem is maybe i am getting interactions with my medications...this hasn't happened in the past, but can something like that develop, even after years of being on a certian medicine?

 

[sming]

peaceboy, I don't know your circumstances (what meds, how long, your dx etc.) and frankly even if someone professes knowledge of alcohol & meds, these things are so idiosyncratic, such knowledge is often of little use.

I'd suggest performing an experiement. Limit your boozing to twice a week (or once if you can manage it). In the first week, drink 1 pint. See how you go. In the second week, drink 2 pints. And so on. See what effects booze has on you. See if you have a limit before feeling awful. See if it's a particular drink or combination of drinks.

HTH,
pete

 

[Rektchordz]

hey all, i go through wondering about this all the time, im a typical 20 year old english guy, i go out friday sat and sunday and usally get real pissed. My life is music so going to clubs is a big part of my life, i totally agree that the hangovers get pretty bad, but really hate the thought of missing out on something i have soooo much fun doing cus i smoked too much weed once and i think too much hehehe, im pretty sure my dp/dr is structured on going out at the weekends, its my thing to look forward to. As well as it making my dp go away ive always been a big drinker soo i cant just stop, it aint gonna happen, to me it also proves how dp is soo brought on by thinking about things soo too much and that its not a massive abnormality of the brain like it feels as the only reason u dont feel it when ya drunk is cus u go into a stte of mind of just not careing, when im really drunk i awlasy sit there and think, its soo weird that i dont feel normal when im sober and i should stop being a little girl about it hahah. The thing that gets me with alchol is that it gives me insomnia restleg leg syndrome and these weird twitchy zaps when i go to sleep which keep me up all night. my dad was an alcholic soo maybe its a good thing ive got dp as the hangovers are too bad to have them that much, bit of twisted logic for u there. one thing i do know is that drugs are a massive no no any more, even tho b4 i found out i had dp i did pills for like 2 years and surprisingly got about 10 tims worse which drove me to find out what was wrong. peace jay