[Trith]

well i can very well understand why you dont get this because it seems your humanbeing functions are completely vanished from your dpdr. we are human. we are not robots where you can install a new program or just put some motor oil in it so it can work well. humanbeing doesnt function like this. i mentioned this once but okay nice, again. both my mother and my grandma they took ssri for over 10 years my grandma even more than 30 years. they both became completely different human. cold, flat, dumb just like a robot. this is not how humanbeing works. if you consider yourself as a robot where you can turn a few screws and everything is ok, great. medicine is completely moneymaking mafia. me as a german need to pay my whole life more than 1 million euros for an insurance, i maybe never will need in the future. the problem of you is you are atheist and you hate everything spritual. therefore you clinge on the idea that you can impact the brain with medication and modulate it. in my opinion and beliefs there is something like the soul. and just like how ridiculous it is for you to believe in a god or something the same i think about a physical fucking pill that should heal my soul.

This sucks really, for you, for your mother and for your grandmother and perhaps SSRIs are doing more bad than good, in general I am not sure of that but even if it was true I don't see how this proves medicines are useless in psychiatry. I understand your anger against psychiatry. I mean, i can't be in your shoes but I understand how you could have reasons to be angry, just like i am angry against most psychiatrists i have seen. But not long ago you were willing to admit that psilocybin or MDMA might cure dpdr. So it seems you agree that molecules can heal your soul, but you hate big pharma. That would be fine by me because I am not going to defend the pharmaceutical industry. But just because the pharmaceutical industry sucks doesn't mean that molecules can't cure us. The world would be simpler if bad people could only produce bad stuff, but I don't believe that, all the more if it can increase their profits margins.
Then regarding depression and serotonin, i have already answered you in a recent post.

 

[Trith]

could you compile some statements from these 7 people and post it here? would mean a lot

Amen to that, that's what I have been waiting for, but it seems it's really hard.

 

[35467]

Identical posts have been made on reddit the last 1-2.days but removed from there as it was seen as spam. Try to do a search "The seventh person feels the treatment with lithium and biperiden" or "biperiden and depersonalization". The search will come with reddit posts identical to those here but can not be opened as it is seen a spam.

 

[Peter]

both my mother and my grandma they took ssri for over 10 years my grandma even more than 30 years.

Interesting, especially since previously you mainly stressed psychosocial factors (e. g. bullying, your upbringing) as reason for your mental illness, notably although cannabis ultimately set it off. If your mother and especially your grandmother both took SSRIs, then there might be a genetic predisposition for mental illness in your family.

they both became completely different human. cold, flat, dumb just like a robot.

Just like often anecdotal evidence can go either way. My sister in law and her sister are both taking SSRIs and I did not observe them fitting your description.

this is not how humanbeing works. if you consider yourself as a robot where you can turn a few screws and everything is ok, great.

Why not? Do you regard humans as some kind of "supreme beings" who are not ultimately ruled by the law of physics?

medicine is completely moneymaking mafia.

In order to provide medicine human work and means of production are necessary, which can only be driven by some kind of economic system. Or do you believe electric power comes out of the plug?

me as a german need to pay my whole life more than 1 million euros for an insurance, i maybe never will need in the future.

Let's assume you are paying the maximum of 769,16€ per month and you are working for 40 years. Then you are in for 369196.8€, which is far beyond the one million you claimed and that even only applies if your salary is quite high. And seriously, at this time it's hard for me to imagine that you will ever reach such a salary.

If you do not like the principle of solidarity, meaning the strong care for the weak, then just move to another country, like the United State, where this does not apply and you do not need to have health insurance and you can pay everything for yourself. But then do not start crying if you get cancer and you really need to pay a million or even more out of your pocket... or you die.

the problem of you is you are atheist and you hate everything spritual.

I do not really understand how you derive this from the post of Trith, but as a matter of fact I think being an atheist is the only reasonable course of action in regards to religion. And spiritualism is looking more and more to me like "drug consumption", but with meditation instead of drugs.

therefore you clinge on the idea that you can impact the brain with medication and modulate it.

Even if we assume that religions like christianity, judaism, buddhism or even islam are correct in spite of all odds against them, why do you think that they imply that brain cannot be modulated by medication? Shouldn't your own experiences with cannabis have proven otherwise to you?

in my opinion and beliefs there is something like the soul.

Incorrect. You wish that there is a "soul".

id like prefer to suffer my whole life from the worst dpdr of the humanbeing history than becoming a robot with underresearched medicine where you never ever the fuck can put that on a scientifical evidence.

You don't know a thing about science if you think that SSRI cannot be scientifically evaluated.

science thought 20 years long ssri is responsible for depression.

The serotonin hypothesis was already getting out of fashion more than 20 years ago.

now they say they were wrong.

So, on the one hand you say that science cannot tell us anything definite about the effects of psychiatric drugs, but when science says they were wrong, this doesn't apply anymore? You can't have it both ways.

they gave more than 1 billion people ssri with the reasoning „you are depressed“ tell me who will pay the due for that?

Even assuming the serotonin hypothesis was wrong this doesn't disprove that SSRIs work for some people with depression.

how many peoples life got destroyed with ssri?

How many people's life got saved by SSRIs?

i am still kicking the dp in ass while im living even a better and more meaningful life than people without any health issue at all.

Your activity on this forum and the content of your posts speaks otherwise.

i had have several brain scans. my brain is working absolutely fine.

Most brain scans only show the structure of the brain and do not tell much about it's function.

 

[mehrdadrad]

could you compile some statements from these 7 people and post it here? would mean a lot

It's been less than three days since I posted on this site and reddit, and so far only two people have messaged for advice on getting medicine, but the story of these 7 people is related to Instagram.
I live in Iran and the most popular social network here is Instagram, one day a channel belonging to a person with DP wrote that he can no longer tolerate the symptoms of DP and is going crazy. If anyone has experience, please help. I had never mentioned my meds until that day, I advised her to take lithium and bipradane, I didn't hear from her again until after a month he texted me that he was on treatment and all these symptoms were gone, in His channel There were a lot of DP sufferers and he shared my message with them and after a while he told me 6 more people told him they felt the treatment, it's been 2 months since that rouge and I don't know how many Other people use lithium and Biperiden, when I saw it was helping I came here and reddit and shared

 

[mehrdadrad]

Another person on this site confirmed the treatment by anticholinergics

I'm use Biperiden and he's on benzotropin, now more than ever I'm sure anticholinergic and lithium will respond positively to DP.

Benztropine Mesylate works for me

 

[mehrdadrad]

Another person on this site confirmed the treatment by anticholinergics

I'm use Biperiden and he's on benzotropin, now more than ever I'm sure anticholinergic and lithium will respond positively to DP.

Benztropine Mesylate works for me

 

[mehrdadrad]

I'm use Biperiden and he's on benzotropine, now more than ever I'm sure anticholinergic and lithium will respond positively to DP.

Benztropine Mesylate works for me

 

[mehrdadrad]

Another person on this site confirmed the treatment by anticholinergics

I'm use Biperiden and he's on benzotropin, now more than ever I'm sure anticholinergic and lithium will respond positively to DP.

Benztropine Mesylate works for me

 

[Trith]

That's interesting, but don't forget to mention that he is also on two other meds and no lithium. Ave you ever tried biperiden without lithium? Why do you think lithium is important?

 

[Trith]

(I remove it because now it's a double post)

 

[Bored]

I will 1000% take something if it can solve the problem and has a clinical history of reproducing positive effects... But... I hope to god I never end up like a guinea pig like you. Holy shit 25 different drugs... that's actually wild... That's just absurd.

 

[Aridity]

That's interesting, but don't forget to mention that he is also on two other meds and no lithium. Ave you ever tried biperiden without lithium? Why do you think lithium is important?

Why is that interesting? You can literally find any med here helping at least one person.. heck I even read one dude who claimed that his dpdr got cured because he started brushing his teeth three times a day instead of 2. Even if it helps, why does it help? And how, too much variables. I still don't believe it can be entirely solved through medication. It's more of a spiritual thing. Call me crazy though, maybe I am.

 

[mehrdadrad]

That's interesting, but don't forget to mention that he is also on two other meds and no lithium. Ave you ever tried biperiden without lithium? Why do you think lithium is important?

Lithium is my personal experience, I was only taking lithium at first and then my symptoms disappeared like seeing fog, after that I went to the doctor for the restlessness of my left leg and he gave me Biperiden and that's when I found out that . and after that It was improve my hallucinations, absences,feelings and emotions, memories , and I decided share my two medicines I take. and until today work for 7 person

 

[mehrdadrad]

I will 1000% take something if it can solve the problem and has a clinical history of reproducing positive effects... But... I hope to god I never end up like a guinea pig like you. Holy shit 25 different drugs... that's actually wild... That's just absurd.

The reason is that you don't have the courage to find a cure by yourself . and you must wait for your doctor to decide , so you don't understand anything beyond the fact that we want to argue about it together, I finally find it after years, but you must Be careful one day will not come to take 50 pills instead of 25 pills and from 11 years to 22 years to get treatment. Good luck

 

[thebiglie]

i now realise you are not bad in english, you are just stupid. dangerously stupid. i advise you to stop posting before you screw over some young impressionable desperate persons life. to suggest that someone may take a drug, and to present your own anecdote is totally fine. but to tell people they HAVE to do something, while trying to pressure them is dangerous. you act like a bully. you know many people here ended up with dpdr BECAUSE some moron like you told them they needed the courage to try a drug? people get dpdr from all kinds of drugs. just because something worked for you, doesnt mean it will work for everyone. now, if you can actually present those other 7 anecdotes, i will actually listen to what you have to say. some people here "had the courage" to try everything, and evenetually they tried a psychedelic drug that far worsened their condition.

 

[Trith]

It's been less than three days since I posted on this site and reddit, and so far only two people have messaged for advice on getting medicine, but the story of these 7 people is related to Instagram.
I live in Iran and the most popular social network here is Instagram, one day a channel belonging to a person with DP wrote that he can no longer tolerate the symptoms of DP and is going crazy. If anyone has experience, please help. I had never mentioned my meds until that day, I advised her to take lithium and bipradane, I didn't hear from her again until after a month he texted me that he was on treatment and all these symptoms were gone, in His channel There were a lot of DP sufferers and he shared my message with them and after a while he told me 6 more people told him they felt the treatment, it's been 2 months since that rouge and I don't know how many Other people use lithium and Biperiden, when I saw it was helping I came here and reddit and shared

So you are saying that 7 people were helped when you only had feedback from one person you don't know and they told you it worked for 6 people and you just trust them on face value, and you did not think it was important to mention this detail. Also I don't see how they can get 6 different people with DPDR to put their hands on both lithium and an anti-parkinsonian med in less than a month without having the corresponding symptoms to get a prescription. But maybe it's different customs. Like many improbable things it's not impossible, but again, I think it's baffling that you just give us "truth" like doubt had not been invented yet.
Also as far as how quickly it works you had feedback from a person who had results in less than 2 days and for the rest of them you don't know. So why do you advise people to take it for at least 2 weeks to see results? Where does this come from?

 

[mehrdadrad]

So you are saying that 7 people were helped when you only had feedback from one person you don't know and they told you it worked for 6 people and you just trust them on face value, and you did not think it was important to mention this detail. Also I don't see how they can get 6 different people with DPDR to put their hands on both lithium and an anti-parkinsonian med in less than a month without having the corresponding symptoms to get a prescription. But maybe it's different customs. Like many improbable things it's not impossible, but again, I think it's baffling that you just give us "truth" like doubt had not been invented yet.
Also as far as how quickly it works you had feedback from a person who had results in less than 2 days and for the rest of them you don't know. So why do you advise people to take it for at least 2 weeks to see results? Where does this come from?

If I had a suggestion or advice, I would have shared it on the Internet in these 2 years. As I explained a few times above, I was going about my normal life when I happened to share it on Instagram, saw it working for others and came and shared it with you. Most of you are old member here and I've only been here three days and have only posted one treatment. It is up to you to accept or not. It is not complicated at all

 

[mehrdadrad]

i now realise you are not bad in english, you are just stupid. dangerously stupid. i advise you to stop posting before you screw over some young impressionable desperate persons life. to suggest that someone may take a drug, and to present your own anecdote is totally fine. but to tell people they HAVE to do something, while trying to pressure them is dangerous. you act like a bully. you know many people here ended up with dpdr BECAUSE some moron like you told them they needed the courage to try a drug? people get dpdr from all kinds of drugs. just because something worked for you, doesnt mean it will work for everyone. now, if you can actually present those other 7 anecdotes, i will actually listen to what you have to say. some people here "had the courage" to try everything, and evenetually they tried a psychedelic drug that far worsened their condition.

i using google translate And it's better to talk about DP instead of insulting

 

[nocturnalman]

i now realise you are not bad in english, you are just stupid. dangerously stupid. i advise you to stop posting before you screw over some young impressionable desperate persons life.

You need a prescription for these medications, it's not like you can run to a pharmacy and just get them and try them.

to suggest that someone may take a drug, and to present your own anecdote is totally fine. but to tell people they HAVE to do something, while trying to pressure them is dangerous. you act like a bully. you know many people here ended up with dpdr BECAUSE some moron like you told them they needed the courage to try a drug? people get dpdr from all kinds of drugs. just because something worked for you, doesnt mean it will work for everyone. now, if you can actually present those other 7 anecdotes, i will actually listen to what you have to say. some people here "had the courage" to try everything

How are psychiatric drugs trials done ? They give them to people and based on their ANECDOTAL evidence they write down if it worked or not.If you enlist 100 people and these 100 all agree on saying that they felt worse, the trial wil be concluded as a failure.

and evenetually they tried a psychedelic drug that far worsened their condition.

I don't see the same hate everywhere else when drugs like cannabis, lsd, magic mushrooms are suggested.He didn't even mention these drugs, these drugs are openly advocated in the USA and Europe, why pick on him for his experience when he didn't even advocate such crap ? Lots of posts here are about other medications, and when a post is positive, the replies are also all positive and full of hope.What's all the hate on this guy ?