A little more about my Tom Cruise rant

Scientology probably does suck because it seems to complicate and make people even less likely to still consider that psychiatry makes huges mistakes in its pill dispensing and makes it even harder for the people who have been hurt not helped by psychiatry to have a voice of opinion still.

Engendering the unfair stereotype that if you have views, which are anti-psychiatry not just always politically correct, and (pro-psychiatry) that you are just a minority cult or going to be put in a certain reject box scientologist or not, isn't helpful for victims of it.

What about when tardive 'akathisia' drives someone into having suicidal feelings, worse still 'causes' them to attempt to put themselves out the indescribable pain their in and feeling within their spinal column,
when it activates on neuroleptics, or SSRI's?

Even though it can be treated, this condition/side effect is almost denied being a possible reality, within mainstream psychiatry. Is it then not even more unfair, when someone still has apparently to respect the status of a psychiatrist, otherwise to be ridiculed or possibly called a scientologist or oddity,

on the merits of a psychiatric doctor being intellectual and therefore correct on everything involving their subject, even though being incapable of realising that not everyone, not half as many as publicised reacts to these things in a tangibly benefitting way, and it sometimes costs the patients life.

The fact that this person may have been to medical school for over 10 years, and still doesn't seemingly have a clue about what they are doing, when making people extremely disturbed from the specific side effects of these meds sometimes, is why it is scarier still.

http://www.breggin.com/31-49.pdf

Grandma.

Disagree with you mostly and know different Welshlad... Although I think that most psycho-active substances including psych meds have the abillity to personify or intensify someones feelings, this is not the whole picture at all to explaining the unpredictability of many of the current medicines in the psych. family.

Besides even if you think thats true, saying that the drug is a gamble and that it works only for some if your in a good mood about taking it in the first place or not apprehensive about its effects, then its seems funny that its being given to treat depression of which the symptoms are always of a negative nature.

Funnily enough a lot of people who decide to try this may be being told it is to 'raise' their mood because of the drugs percieved or marketted benefits, would it be then be normal to request they are not depressed already and that this is the only way it will enhance their mood?

If thats true, it sounds about as scientifically sensible as saying that wine will make you cheery, if your already in a good mood, but if your in a bad mood it'll make you more miserable.

Insulin for diabetes is drugs for depression is not a cross-comparable argument to most if not all of how effective current psych med's are, because there is nowhere near the same precision or understanding of their nature, compared to insulins effect on 1 thing.

Even most psychiatrists will admit there is no understanding of how exactly they work. We don't know enough about the brain yet to completely understand the nature of chemical imbalance.

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Your right that 'all' meds have side effects even parecetamol has side effects this is true. Infact anything foreign used in the body will have alterations and effects on the body, whether it be parecetomal, paxil or taking a sports supplement.

But isn't more important, the 'extent' to which a side effect causes harm or the significance? such as when an effect is either dangerous, fatal, or causes excruciating suffering and pain.

You just don't understand the 'extremity' of people's appauling reactions to this stuff or the specific and nameable awful side effects which are selfishly under-researched and bypassed or even forgotten as significant in favour of the drug.

If you are sayin in the way it comes across, then at current you don't have an educated clue that some of these side-effects can't possibly be to do with just a will of a person's mind to their preconceived idea of what the medicine will do to them.

That would be similar to saying that someone who took Phen-Fen who was scared or apprehensive about taking it, is why they may have suffered heart valve damage, which of course is impossible.

Grandma.