The tips are there, they just don't feel like tips. This is one of the biggest obstacles in recovery. That the information is in front of you, but does not sound like anything useful. Try to stretch your mind, I do know it feels hard.Good for you, but where are the tips?
" get out of a logic of suppression of the things I don't like in me"This is the kind of thing that is helping me too. More generally having more consideration for myself, my achievements, my negative emotions and not just the positive ones, but the positive ones too, my opinions, my thoughts, what I want deep inside. And give myself that consideration and not try to make others give it to me. But there are many specific obstacles about this, and I think that even if this could help someone else, the details are probably very unique to each person.
In general, for me, it's also to get out of a logic of suppression of the things I don't like in me. But I have been using this strategy for years, and it takes time to find replacements.
Which is absolutely not true, at all. You believe everyone's childhood was as fd up as yours, and you blame yourself for "having DP". Right there a belief that is creating or contributing to your DP.I would venture to say it’s a highly subjective experience.
And this is what your parents wanted you to believe so the never have to face consequences of their irresponsibility. The "let the past be in the past" is the ultimate joker card weapon of abusive parents.All suffering anyone may experience over trauma is internal, all suffering is. So, your message is sorta backwards Thysta. Understanding yourself and your own imperfection is priceless, and understanding yourself does not mean theorizing about being traumatized from childhood. It doesn’t mean thinking that you think bad about yourself. That only induces self pity. Anything like that which is imagined can actually cause more damage to yourself in the now. And the now is all that matters
Absolutely. Because the two stuff is connected to each other in our brains.For example if someone has an abusive egotistical father they'll respond to egotism as if it's an incoming violent threat.
Great! But if I am projecting my stuff onto you, then you can talk about your childhood to me, right? How did you grow up? How your parents talked to each other? Did your parents kiss, hug each other? Did they hug you often?So now you’re going as far as to say I’m a victim of abuse, and you don’t even know me? You’ve brainwashed yourself by a theory, and that everyone with DP has it because they’ve had childhood trauma. Probably because YOU have. That’s a very common thing for people to do, to just assume that their own problem applies to everyone else.
And I’m not saying any of that. I didn’t say completely subjective, but it’s highly subjective because the experience of trauma itself can be as it pertains to the person having it. Like how about getting high on weed and having a panic attack/existential breakdown? Is that always a result of childhood trauma? My ASS it is. You’re just another woke depersonalization spewer
Also, note that in this reply, you never once written stuff like "My parents were in crazy love with each other, my father helped me to prepare for my first date, we were having big laughs together, my father was always behind my back when something happened. We had very happy Christmases" No, you started to attack me. Not one word about a happy childhood.So now you’re going as far .....
Again, you answered NONE of my questions about your childhood. If you would have had a "good enough" childhood, it would have been no problem or discomfort for you to answer my questions. You keep diverting, distracting. You are in denial.No, you need to wake up. Are you even considering the possibility of people with DP who haven’t had that experience, or should we all just start to think our parents have created all our problems? You’re literally preaching one specific thing to a group of people because it aligns with causations in YOUR life. Trying to tell me I’ve been abused because I disagreed with your sweeping generalization of DP sufferers is called trolling.
And how about those beautiful days on the lakeshore with your father when you were fishing together for days? You had a lot of fun moments ,right? Mommy sometimes joined the boys, didn't she? Did she even try to do fishing with you? Do the boy thing? She was kind of clumsy, wasn't she? You and your father were laughing your ass off, right?Don’t try to tell me what my problem is. You’d make a real good Jehovas witness. You even mentioned God in there somewhere. Yeah, you’re brainwashed as fuck, living in one extremist mindstate. Get out, save yourself.
When people who are strangers meet on holidays, or at a party, or a picnic, trip, I don't know, and one asks the other about stuff like this "Did you do fishing or stuff like that with your father?", you think people with a normal childhood ask something like this?? "Why you think I want to prove anything??"Why do you think I’d want to prove anything to you?
Thanks but I stop, I'm really not here to beef with anyone, I just wanted to demonstrate something. I succeeded in that.Both of you are making good points you should try chilling out and listening to each other.
But why don't you tell us about your childhood?
Exactly. You get enough of these, you get a complex trauma state like DP.For example I think I am bad at something in life, and looking at my past, I realize that I think that way because my mother told me things about it
This is absolutely what I am talking about 100%. Your perceptions simply don't match the beliefs you acquired from dysfunctional parents.Then if I realize all my belief comes from this kind of interaction with her, I can realize this belief is not based on anything logical and it might be a false belief after all.
Absolutely agree!But understanding trauma can precisely help to see that it is not all caused by magical forces in the universe that target me in an unfair way, it is caused by past things that can be understood and sorted out.
I came here to tell you tips that helped me, if you don't like it, click away. I have already regretted it.and because it is an immature way of dealing with other people's subjectivity.
Trigger is not cause.Everyone's triggers are different.
