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a big reason why we endure this shit is because of feeling helpless and not trusting others or ourselves

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a big reason for anxiety and also dp/dr is the feeling of helplessness and lack of trust especially basic trust

what people like us need a lot is CONTROL

my father for example has always terrorized us and beat my mom etc. I had to grow up under his constant terror . not only that but also my teachers were fucking assholes . all the adults I should have get love from and trusted have stabbed me in the back . so what happens then ? you will feel in constant danger and be like "if I cant even trust them ...who can I trust ? if these people even harm me ..who wont ? "

living under such circumstances or having such experiences will also influence your own decisions in life . for example I have been to a school where I was very unhappy ...only to get that degree because my father always wanted me to study . or I have been to boxing gyms were the coachs were shit and total assholes but I have went there for years only because I thought so highly of them aka "they know better than me"

you will also lack the confidense to take what is yours in life . but let me tell you this and please tell this to yourself and believe in it :

YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE HAPPY ! ...YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY WHEN SOMETHING BOTHERS YOU NO MATTER WHAT THE PERSON IN FRONT OF YOU WILL THINK OR FEEL !

YOU HAVE BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS ! YOU ARE A HUMAN LIKE EVERYONE ELSE !

some of you might not get instantly what I am trying to say but if you analyze your life you will see such patterns too I am sure

you can tell me your experiences or how you feel . I am 10000% sure that what I am just explaining you is a big part of why we feel often like shit in general and are unhappy etc
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PerfectFifth, I appreciate the point you are making, but I would factor in that we are typically starting from a point, or deficit, where we are introverted and inhibited, so I don't believe Psyborg was saying to go around yelling at people because you feel like it, but to be able to express and communicate your basic rights to people when necessary and without excessive fear of what others may think or feel when what you are saying is reasonable and justified. I think you are making too much of this one detail which he has already put into context.

Psyborg, I understand what you mean. Basic human rights are a line of thought or reasoning I have used myself for helping break down toxic shame, which is one of the types of negative conditioning that can cause the kinds of problems you describe. So when I needed to I might say to myself, "Everyone has the right to be happy and feel safe," or, "no-one has the right to make another human being feel ashamed of who they are or afraid to live their life." It can be an empowering angle.

As you and others have talked about, I agree control can be such a big part of it for so many people. Obsessively trying to hold onto things which were realistically out of our control, or taking undue responsibility for things, is mentally exhausting. With catastrophic loss of trust we can cling tightly to things, even and sometimes especially the things that hurt us. You can't push something away if you haven't first let it go, and it can be a challenge getting to the point where you're ready to do that.
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