ThoughtOnFire

Typically it's viewed as "how they are feeling"

Like I consider myself 85% to 95% recovered.

But it's like, what is that last amount?

When is enough going to be enough? 

It's very puzzling if you ask me.

Any further argumentative posts here, (and elsewhere), will be deleted.

In my own experience I'd say the Symptoms have always remained constant, but after a while I grew stronger. 

https://www.theatlan...il-twin/383726/

Been this way for 16.5 years now. I've gradually gotten ALOT better over time. But finally to get completely over it, I'm now accepting that is is 'me' who will emerge from this. See, all this time I've always believed there was a cure, a way out, a recovery. But I subconsciously held on to the belief that the transformation would "kill" the DP'd me. But now I understand who I am in DP, will be the same one to cross back over to reality. Rather than some kind of "DP Ego" Death.

I've found antihistamines improve brain fog, ironically. Specifically I take the Costco Brand of Zyrtec... MUCH less costly! It's called Aller-tec.

A while back I asked the Community to post their DP/DR songs and then I made a playlist of them all.

Here they are: 

https://www.youtube....j4rD7ETFdjzsp8B

Even the most sane person would not do well isolating like that.

I'm locking this thread. It seems most of the counter arguments to the OP have been made. It's obvious that mental illness and DP/DR specifically is not greater in any skin color. I see no productive reason to keep this thread going. The conversation was more or less civil but I sense it could easily descend into a storm.

Weed makes my symptoms 100x worse. And for many others it makes it many times worse. You're best to steer clear of smoking marijuana ever again.

I definitely want to try and get into meditation, any tips on where to start?

 

I'm going to do my best to appreciate the little things. It seems like DPDR attempts to define and describe reality before you even experience reality, and it feels like a constant struggle to reintroduce the logic and reasoning over and over again. But it seems to get just a little bit better every day

So the first thing I want to say is that meditation in general is for your mind/spirit as working out at a gym is for the body. There are very various meditation techniques out there. I'd say the best one to begin with is simply watching your lungs breathe. Don't even worry about posture while meditating, you can do it sitting in a chair, traditional folding of legs, you can even do it laying down or whatever else.

It doesn't have to be for a long duration of time. 15 minutes one or two times per day is a great pace to start. If you feel like sitting an extra 5-10 minutes then feel free. Don't place too many rules on your method.

You'll likely find it difficult to continue holding your focus on your breathing. Don't be hard on yourself, just bring your attention back to your breath. This, as I said in the simile, will increase your ability to concentrate, building your mental faculties. 

This method will also probably put you into a more relaxed state of mind. And then there is "mindfulness", which is basically meditating while doing daily activities, at work for example. Just realize randomly that you can take a moment and just notice your breathing. It's a good stress relief tool to have as well. 

On a side note: Music can be a great way to help you get more into the meditative zone. I don't recommend the "guided meditations" on youtube. But there are some great tracks out there, such as ambient videos. Myself, I prefer more Nordic inspired ambience, or there's a Native American Flute album I sometimes play on Spotify.

Thank you for your response. I'm upset that I ran into that because I feel like it upended my recovery and made things feel even more meaningless. Is there anything that has helped you manage your symptoms? 

Huge one is meditation. Other than that I focus on enjoying the simple things in life. A cup of coffee/tea. A simple conversation with a close friend or family. A nostalgic song. Things like that get me by.

You will make it again! Meditation has been my number one coping and recovering skill as well. I believe in the power of each person. This may be DP "Self" Help. But what we do here is help each other along the way. Community is very important and being alone with this is absolute hell. You are strong and we've got your back. Again, welcome

Welcome to the forum Arc,

Can I ask how you made it out those 4 times? And what is holding you in the DP zone this time around? Myself I've done nothing else but try to think my way out. It's been 16 years now this month of July. I haven't had any breaks from it, 24/7. On the bright side, I am starting to recover, actually consider myself 95%, but there's still that little bit. What I really think is happening is that I've grown stronger than the symptoms (most of them). I work, socialize, do all the things a person without dp might do. Except I'm older now so my priorities have shifted. Being an adult often means you have your shit together but there's still a pile of shit to get in order.

u will not find out, go ahead and try. its like trying to hack into ur immune system... u really want to do that? or why not just let it work like it does.

Yes.