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#387129 Has therapy ALONE cured anyone on here????

Posted by Allez on 06 November 2016 - 10:48 AM

Two different events were happening around the time the chronic (~3 year, 24/7) DP lifted . One of them was cessation of celexa 40mg over a two week period. The other was an EMDR therapy session for past panic attacks, especially the first memory of one (6 months prior to initial onset of chronic DP).

After EMDR there was lots of crying, irritability, and anger. It's strange how much emotion was felt in the weeks after just one session (especially after not feeling any for three years). I still had blank mind, but my consciousness felt connected with my body, and eventually (after months) thoughts and internal dialogue returned. My mind's eye is still foggy at times, and I do not know the cause of that.

I still had intense panic attacks after this (and still do in some situations), and some made me feel DP/DR. It never sticks around longer than a day or two. In the time since then, I've used self-help methods daily to keep physical and mental stress low (yoga, TRE, mindfulness). Mindfulness has made life more tolerable in general, because it's mere observation without judgement. It helps to see things more clearly (with senses and mind). At first it was difficult for me, because I've always been one to distract myself with video games or music. For me, this was essentially an addiction to avoid facing the issues at hand.

I still don't know for sure if it was the first panic attack that caused me to dissociate 6 months later. This was the most intense attack that also caused an out of body experience. The only other time I've felt this was while dissociated.

#371858 Why you are NOT getting better

Posted by Allez on 18 May 2016 - 02:53 PM

In the past, I've thought of DP being like a wound or scab, and picking at it just prolongs the healing. Our bodies already know how to heal, if we let them.

#371468 Post Your Creations!

Posted by Allez on 12 May 2016 - 01:46 PM

#371395 Debate between myself and founder of

Posted by Allez on 11 May 2016 - 02:35 PM

Anxiety has more than one cause.


Some anxiety comes from dysfunctions that do not correct their selves (think type 1 diabetes and other genetic diseases). The person cannot help this without external resources (like diabetes patients need insulin). This is a case where medication will be useful.

Some other causes of anxieties can be helped with stress reduction, CBT, change in environment, eating better (you are what you eat), sleeping better etc.


Some are a combination of both. The problem is: How can you tell what the cause of your anxiety is? What current test is there, that will be able to tell you the cause of it? Will they eventually have a test that says "oh look, they have that set of genes that makes them overly anxious."

Unrelated to OP, but relevant to anxiety in general:


Another thing to add is the underestimation of being persistent. You cannot give up on things so quickly. You need to see them through to full manifestation. Imagine if a tree seedling gave up upon seeing all of the other fully matured trees around it. It's roots would never be deep, and would easily be blown away by the slightest wind.

On the other hand, if you have a diseased seedling from the start, and no matter the effort, the tree is bound to be shitty... it's kind of fucked (as far as being a healthy tree). That is the harsh reality of life, and coming to terms with that mentally and emotionally can be difficult for some, considering a lot of parents shelter their children from way the world actually is.


To feel anxiety sometimes is part of the normal human experience and should not be averted at all costs (hard lesson learned).

#371393 It's gotten worse.

Posted by Allez on 11 May 2016 - 01:58 PM

I feel like that the reason why the old symptoms are coming back is because I've been repressing my feelings again, whilst suffering from emotional turbulence.

What are you repressing? What feelings are you trying to escape from?

#370886 Thoughts of being disturbed\scared about being alive

Posted by Allez on 03 May 2016 - 06:32 PM

Sounds like constant mental commentary and monitoring about reality. Just realize there's only now and it should help a little bit. Anything in the past or future is just mental.

Also, realize that the anxiety is the issue, nothing else really. Some part of you probably feels threatened by your observations because it's not the way you want it to be. So the anxiety is making you feel like you're in some danger or something. It sounds like you're fighting with reality (the way things already are), and wanting them to be different. Just accept it for how it is.

#369299 ATTENTION, people with anxiety & DP/DR

Posted by Allez on 12 April 2016 - 11:05 PM

Glad to hear this is helping you

#369076 Cannabis

Posted by Allez on 10 April 2016 - 03:50 PM

People throw caution to the wind til the fun runs out.

#368768 how to kill that brain fog?

Posted by Allez on 06 April 2016 - 10:14 AM


#368625 Do we have limitations?

Posted by Allez on 04 April 2016 - 02:37 PM

We're better at worrying and ruminating. We're on a whole different level when it comes to that.

#368442 Can we all agree that DR is worse than DP?

Posted by Allez on 02 April 2016 - 08:40 AM

Wendy's is clearly the superior choice when it comes to quality burgers.

#367977 Positive People

Posted by Allez on 27 March 2016 - 08:53 PM

You've gotta look at your own reaction to their words.

#367741 Random video I found

Posted by Allez on 24 March 2016 - 09:46 PM

#367447 what's your grounding techniques?

Posted by Allez on 21 March 2016 - 03:53 PM

This one is pretty nice to get in touch with emotions.

#365964 The HAPPY uplifting music topic! :)

Posted by Allez on 24 February 2016 - 02:26 PM