I've been having this persistant hissing/ringing sound in my head for the past week or so. It's a bit like letting air out of a tire. Last night it really fucked up my sleep because it was somewhat loud. I think it's called tinnitus, but it has nothing to do with my ears, I can hear fine but the sound is coming from my head. I think this was brought on, at least partly, by me using induction cookers. When I turn them on, they create a similar sound in my head, could be because I'm electromagnetically sensitive. I switched to a propane cooker today though, to see if it gets better.
Have any of you had this? I hear it's sometimes linked to anxiety and depression.
We were having some weird philosophical debate in the chat and spoke about Eckhart Tolle's book "A New Earth" and "Power of Now", and I recall Kenny (surfingisfun001) asking me if I had ever been "aware" as Eckhart describes in his book. And I have been, twice, it did not last very long but I can remember that it was a pretty amazing feeling. From my perspective it's like there are three states of conciousness (probably are more, but I'm just trying to illustrate an example), at the bottom is DP/DR, then there's being "normal" and finally there's being truly aware.
For me the experience of being truly aware was pretty overwhelming at first, everything was just so beautiful and alive, like being on ecstacy or something, I couldn't stop smiling and I actually cried but it was tears of joy. I felt like I was one with everything, connected to everything. Also, there was no thinking, just beautiful silence in my head. It's kind of hard to fully explain. It lasted for about an hour, untill I began doing some analytical stuff then it just faded away and I became "normal" again, and after a week or so I relapsed to DR. The second time was less intense, much calmer and it happened suddenly during the evening, I enjoyed it but then went to sleep and when I woke up, I was DR'd again.
One very famous but forgotten person who (probably) had DP was Nikola Tesla. He invented alternating currents (AC) which allows transfer of electricity over long distances, the modern electric motor, x-ray, basic radar and laser technology, wireless communication and cellular technology and several other things. Basically, without Tesla we would not be here having this discussion. He is probably the most important inventor in current human history, and he also suffered from DP.
Tesla also had a free energy device in the works that would draw it's power from the ionosphere. But when JP Morgan, the banker and the guy who funded the project, found out what he was doing, he pulled all the money and the project fell apart. Why? Well, you can't sell free energy.
How do I know he was a DP sufferer? Well his symptoms were pretty clear. Racing thoughts and he saw flashing lights, panic attacks, he couldn't always tell whether the world around him was tangible, obsessive compulsive behaviour etc. Seems pretty much like DP/DR to me. Check out this video about him:
Just more evidence that even with DP, you can accomplish big things. I mean, this man essentially created the future we now live in. And I think it's horrendous that the history books have swept him under the rug. He deserves more recognition for his work, and his patents should be made publicly available, especially because they could potentially solve our energy problems.
I didn't know it could be this simple, but right now I have no DR. Whether it stays gone, time will tell, but for now I'm back in reality.
Basically this is what happened. I was driving to our family cabin with my motorcycle, following my dads car, and had this huge DR attack, I was afraid if it got any worse I'd crash my bike. So eventually I just had enough, and repeated to myself "This is real, this is happening, I am in reality now" several times, and after a few minutes my DR started to fade, and after we had loaded our supplies on to our boat, my DR was gone. I basically just reminded myself of the truth, and believed it.
Funny how it goes. Let's hope it stays this way, but even if I relapse I now know I can get back to reality.
Weird, I just started taking a lot of supplements and am going on a diet because I have allergies to wheat, dairy, and sugar. You would think I would be feeling better but lately I've been feeling worse. I remember before I stopped eating wheat, dairy, and sugar for 3 months. During that 3 months was when I tried to kill myself.... very strange indeed.
Probably opiate withdrawal from gluten, casein (dairy) and sugar. The ol' "it'll get worse before it gets better".
The peptides from gluten and casein are important because they react with opiate receptors in the brain, thus mimicking the effects of opiate drugs like heroin and morphine. These compounds have been shown to react with areas of the brain such as the temporal lobes, which are involved in speech and auditory integration.
Children with autism frequently seem addicted to wheat and dairy products. Presumably, people with Autism and schizophrenia incompletely digest wheat and dairy products. These incompletely digested peptides are then absorbed into the body and bind to opiate receptors, altering behavior and other physiological reactions.
Feel ya as well. Because of DP I dropped out of college, have now alienated most of my friends, potential girlfriends and wasted 3 years of my life. Luckly college is free in my country, so I just wasted some taxpayer money.
But I'm still young and have many years left (I'd like to think anyway), Bill Gates was a college drop-out and I can always make new friends and find new girls, although getting back in the socializing game after two years of being a hermit is going to be challenging, but doable.
As for the meaning of your life, you decide that, and nobody else.
Yeah dude, I'm not a certified shrink but what you just described there looks like run-of-the-mill derealization and anxiety/depression, not "the beginning of schizophrenia". Sounds like your doctor is a hack that just wants to drug you up. Definately get a second opinion.
Yes, do whatever YOU think is best. But you have no idea what I have tried/not tried over my life. You know nothing about me, as I know nothing about you and would make no assumption that I did. You also don't know the things that have improved my quality of life and things I have learned to eliminate from my life as I know they cause my problems to increase.
I am not waiting for the medical community to cure me. When this is fully understood ... and I don't know that the concept of "consciousness" can ever be understood ... I will probably be long gone. Maybe, maybe not. But the likelhood of my benefiting from medical research is far lower than the young people here.
I don't know what you have tried, but based on your posts I have a rough estimate of your progress. Also, you're taking this way too personally, I'm just some random guy on the internet.
And I could ask you ... why are you here if you think that being here is a waste of your time or is a negative experience for you? Go on and treat yourself then. You do not need any assistance here. Or it would seem any support. A mystery to me why you're here.
Where did you get that from? I never said this forum is a waste of time, I even specifically said there is nothing wrong with asking for help, as long as you don't expect other people to fix your problems. This forum has helped me find new things to try, which I would not have thought of otherwise, and there are some great people here.
Why are you pulling crap like this out of your ass? Trying somekind of Freudian mindfuck technique or something? Geez.
And how do you presume to ''cure'' yourself, Mr. Hoot? Please share the elaborate details you have in mind for your future recovery?
I'll find that out when I'm back to normal. There is no map, no predetermined route. I'm just going to have to wing it and find my way by experimenting with different approaches, use that which works and discard the rest. While I see nothing wrong with asking for help, I'm not relying on others to "fix" me. So far I've had some pretty good results.
I'm not better than anyone else, I have no such delusions. But I am open to trying new things, even out-of-the-box stuff, and letting go of old things that no longer serve me.
You do whatever you think is best. But if you're waiting for the medical community to come up with a solution to a problem few medical professionals even acknowledge, take a number because you're going to be waiting a long time, like Dreamer has.
I'm not trying to start any beef here, but from what I've read, you're only 14, 15? Dreamer has been dealing with this for a lifetime, and has farrrrr more experience and understanding of this illness than any of us new comers.
She may know the medical literature of DP, but considering she has been suffering from this condition for most of her life says a lot about the effectiveness of her approach. I'm sure Dreamer is a great gal, and has a lot of value to offer, but I still have to take some of her advice with a grain of salt based on her track record. Just like with everybody else.
Maybe she can become humble enough to learn something from us "newbies" also? Maybe it's time for a fresh approach on her part as well? I dunno, that's her choices to make.
And I don't know about you, but I'm not content with relief and "treatment", I'm looking to cure myself. While I can accept DR in the moment, I don't want to settle for coping with it, and I'm not going to wait around for some scientists to find an "officially certified cure" for DR. It's all or nothing baby. Statistics are irrelevant to me.
You guys are supposed to be Americans, right? Where is your pioneering spirit?
During lunch I was a bit annoyed but now I'm feeling pretty good. I actually feel like doing some work today (I'm kind of an internet entrepreneur), and by choice. This is weird because I haven't really done anything that would "boost" me to feel this way. Been alone at home, haven't talked to anyone, haven't even been outside and it's like 31C degrees in here and I don't have AC, just a basic fan which does circulate the air but it doesn't really lower the temperature much. So I'm kind of physically uncomfortable here.
I'm actually considering writing an eBook on my 4 year experience with DR/DP, how to deal with it and overcome it. I'd be drawing from my own experience as well as from what has worked for other people. I will however only release it once I've overcome my DR.
Basically gluten sensitivity and celiac disease are both very hard to diagnose, and are thus frequently misdiagnosed. The blood tests are only accurate if there is total villous atrophy in the small intestines, meaning they only work when celiac disease has destroyed most of the small "hairs" in your small intestine that absorb nutrition from food. Fortunately these villi heal over time after you go gluten-free.
Both of these conditions are also misunderstood. Most GPs and even specialists who don't actively follow medical journals and new studies, think celiac disease only causes abdominal and gastrointestinal symptoms, along with a particular skin disorder. That's totally false, some celiacs might not even have any GI symptoms at all, they can be very non-specific.
How does this relate to DP/DR? Well gluten sensitivity can quite often have neurological symptoms as well. I can't remember the exact numbers, Dr. OBryan mentions them in the interview, but a large portion of gluten sensitive people have restrictive blood flow to the brain, which can cause symptoms like anxiety, depression, brain fog, trouble concentrating and lack of will-power, which then over time, could lead to DP/DR in some cases. The last part is just my own theory.
What has happened since I removed gluten from my diet? I tried a gluten-free diet for one month recently, and I noticed significant improvements. Less anxiety, no brain fog, more clear days from DR than ever before, increased motivation and energy (I built a freakin garden), less muscle twitches, less gastrointestnal symptoms etc. And this only in one month! Usually it takes 3-12 months for people to recover, but I'm already seeing improvements.
After the 1 month, I did a gluten challenge for 5 days and felt like crap. Body language never lies, as Dr. OBryan says. I may not be officially diagnosed as gluten intolerant by some egghead GP, but as far as my body is concerned, gluten is a no-no.
So for any of you out there, especially those of you on meds who have had to switch meds often, the best way to rule out gluten sensitivity as the cause or contributor to your depression, anxiety and/or DP/DR, is to go strictly gluten-free for one month, see how you feel, and then do a 5-7 day gluten challenge, and see how you feel. That's probably the most accurate test for gluten sensitivity out there. If you feel better off gluten, you are gluten sensitive, maybe even intolerant.
You should avoid all wheat, rye and barley products, as well as oats because they are commonly cross-contaminated. So basically all breads, baked goods and pastries, this includes pizzas, hot dogs and hamburgers. Salad dressings and many sauces also use wheat to make the sauces thicker. Beer contains gluten as well, but typically gluten does not survive when they make other grain alcohols like vodka or whiskey, but some people still react to them. Also avoid dairy products as gluten sensitive people are also often lactose intolerant, and sometimes casein intolerant. Casein is a milk protein found in all dairy products, even lactose-free ones. And make sure the meds and supplements you are taking don't contain gluten, sometimes they do.
What you can eat during this test phase is organic beef, chicken, eggs, fish, other meats, vegetables, fruit, nuts, seeds, legumes, brown or white rice, soy (although not recommended, most soy is genetically manipulated)certain grains like quinoa, buckwheat and amaranth. Although gluten intolerant people may also not tolerate quinoa and amaranth for a while. Google "polymeal" and "paleo diet" for more reference. I also react to sugars (even fruit) for the time being, which probably means I have candida or bacterial overgrowth going on somewhere, temporarily at least.
Try it! You have nothing to lose except your DP/DR, anxiety and depression.