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Lose memories for emotions

04 July 2020 - 12:37 AM

Hi Everybody,


has anybody of you the problem based on emotional numbness, that you lose your memories for your former emotions ?


It started now after 1.5 years of emotional numbness and actually now by taking the so called "london combi"  included zoloft/sertralin and lamotrigin.


Thank you for reading and maybe answering.

Whereby do you realize emotional numbness ? How is it for you ?

20 June 2020 - 06:31 AM

Its not easy to describe how someone realize that he/she suffers on emotional numbness.


Especially when someone has it for longer and he/she maybe forgot how some feelings felt like.


Since the time i felt normally emotions and as i had them naturally, i didnt thought about my feelings and where they are in the body detected.

So its hard to really remember how feelings works in the body or brain


For me

1) i recognized that my thoughts/ cogntion dont/barely set off operations in metabolism and emotions


2) I realized a changing in my hull and stomach in the way that there is no flowing of the autonomic nervous system or flowing of energy in general; or like it is freezed


3) My brain seems to stop at the skull and some kind of energy dont go oustide like a fluidum or aura.


4) In general less inner body processes or operations (from the autonomic nervous system, stomach. tiredness and so on)



But how do you would describe your changes in your body/ brain after beginning of emotional numbness ?



psychological model of a cognitive or mental human process in normal and dysfunctional functioning like ocd/dp/anxiety disorders

18 June 2020 - 09:31 AM

You can find involuntarily inner or intereoceptive processes in many aspects of an organism or human being (sleeping, heartbeat, breathing and so on).  That is the same for dp topics in solipsism, perception, emotions, moving and more you can imagine. A trigger (trauma, weed...) makes a suddenly interruption in that normally unconscious fixed unit which starting in vulnerable persons the vicious circle of anxiety and perpetuate it so deploy a alienation to your own self, to people or environment because those functions are disturbed due to give not needed attention


The brain is a high economic system (for all nerve cells actions a lot of oxygen  and energy etc is needed) so all repetitive mental processes are going on, will quick automated or gets unconsious. That means that your thoughts still working unconscious and you only recognize conscious your metabolism and your (in that case most negativ or emotional numbed) emotions . After automated thoughts it is difficult to make the link to metabolism and emotions.


An abstract or formalized scheme aforementioned developed in cognitive behavious therapy (cbt) is the S-O - R - K- C-scheme and the A-B-C-D-E- scheme:


S (Stimuli)

O (organism included schedule cognition/thoughts - metabolism - emotions)

R (reaction or behaviour, goes back to organism in metaprocessing)

K (contingency)

c (consequences, goes back in metaprocessing)


A (action)

B (believe; organism with cognition/thoughts - metabolism - emotions)

C (consequences or behaviour, goes back to organism in metaprocessing)

D ( inner debate)

E ( effects like conclusions you do, goes back to organism in metaprocessing)

Sure a better and more effective way than the "brooding chair" is to lower the anxious circle of thoughts, worrying or anxiety in the way you begin a so called "angel circle" of positive thinking, which changes your negative belief sooner or later. With the angel circle you can start the possibility of a normal, well being functioning again, because it will be automated as quick as the viscious circle. This works quicker and better when you get the same conviction as you have/had it in the starting of the viscious cycle, which is proven in accompanying strong anxiety/ panic attacks.

Even when you dont feel or not to be convicted in that moment, you should start a angel circle of positive thinking and affirmations in the way you start an inner dialog or even say it loud to you ("i will improve", "i can do positive things meanwile my disorder ", "i have self-efficacy", i can distract, things will change, in doing things i can get pleasure back, my body works well without my attention, i am safety and so on). You find a lot of books of affirmations with countless examples you can use everday, every hour or every minute.Beside that you can hang up your chosen affirmations in papers at the wall in your room.
So the process of automation is a fact, it only works slowly or quicker (depends from your positive belief; unfortunalety you are now in force of strong worrying and anxiety, whereby your positive beliefs at first is less), but it works and your worrying and anxiety will fade out.
Finally an example for the quick process of automation (sure much simpler) :
All which have a driver license, may remember the first hour of learning driving and to shift gears, knows how laborious and how much consciousness is necessary for that. Already after a few repetitions you get caught that you are in a high gear without knowing how you have done it, because it was fast automated respective slipped into the subconscious. And it goes so quick because you had the belief "i can do it" unwritten.


no effect from psychopharmaka or sleeping associated psychopharmakas

17 June 2020 - 08:21 AM

After one year of my disorder i got no effect anymore from psychopharmakas or sleeping associated drugs. Especially the fact of no effect from sleeping drugs is a riddle for me.


Have anyone of you this psychopharmaka resistance and/ or has somebody a explanation for this or what i can do to change that fact (treatment) ?


If anybody can give me a reply, i am very grateful because not to sleep is so excruciating...i need really help

dreaming on dp

17 June 2020 - 01:07 AM

I read that many of you report dreaming vivid and have even nightmares. it could be that, when your consciousness is switched off, in your sleep, you get connected to yourself and this is maybe a good sign.


Has somebody the opposite that their dreams are pale, very emotionless and hardly remembered ?

So even when your consciousness is switched off, you dont get connected to yourself and your inner body processes and that could be a sign that your dp is more severe ?