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In Topic: Buddha and Acceptance

08 July 2020 - 02:21 AM

I'm the type of idiot who hears "What is the sound of one hand clapping?" and starts slapping his fingers into his palm. Are any of you too?


Lol, yep, I've done that one before!


Now you mention them, I think Koans could be said to be about acceptance too, as they are intended as unanswerable questions that you set the mind to until eventually you realize there is no answer and let go to things as they are.


I've also been thinking about detachment and acceptance. Attachment starts in the mind - with thoughts, memories and imaginings. Dp is often linked with obsession, even described directly sometimes as a kind of pure O, where grasping at and clinging to these seems to cause a blockage, whereas non-attachment seems to allow for smoother processing.

In Topic: Buddha and Acceptance

05 July 2020 - 09:36 AM

Is it the tradition in India to memorize it, Abe? I know hindus memorize the Vedas.


The introduction in my copy says it was originally written down in Sri Lanka, where you live smile.png


I think I read it's the first written record of his teachings.

In Topic: Buddha and Acceptance

30 June 2020 - 07:09 PM

Herman Hesse wrote Siddartha. The central message that Siddhartha learns is that experience, rather than avoiding certain things in the “real world”, leads to understanding;

rather than desires and belongings being a distraction, they are as important to our perception of the world as all other actions and thought.

Siddartha fulfilled his desires en-route to spiritual nirvana, proving that there is more than one way to skin Buddha's cat.


I've read a couple of books by Herman Hesse, Steppenwolf and The Glass Bead Game, and got a sense of his idea of Buddhism, but he was a novelist.


This is from the Dhammapada:


And yet it is not good conduct

That helps you upon the way

Nor ritual, nor book learning,

Nor withdrawal into the self,

Nor deep meditations.

None of these things confers mastery or joy.


O seeker!

Rely on nothing

Until you want nothing.

In Topic: Tabex

22 June 2020 - 02:41 PM

From what I remember reading it's meant to be pretty safe in it's standardized manufactured form where the dosage is low. I think the controversy came from kids eating the raw wild plant and getting sick. 


I wouldn't buy it again now though as the main manufacturer's have doubled the price. One of its plus points was that it was a relatively cheap aid to quitting.

In Topic: psychological model of a cognitive or mental human process in normal and dysfunctional functioning like ocd/dp/anxiety disorders

19 June 2020 - 01:36 AM

That's nowhere near analogous. Learning motor tasks and changing beliefs about oneself aren't even in the same ballpark. 


It's as if you think that we have complete control over our beliefs and emotions. That's not the case. I, for example, couldn't decide to become sincerely religious, no matter how many times I told myself that God exists and painted every single wall with the text "God is real". That's because there are deterministic factors, completely beyond my control, that dictate that through the "unconscious mind".  


I'm skeptical about positive affirmations in general. Say, someone has a deep conviction that they're ugly. What do you think saying "I'm beautiful" will actually accomplish? I don't think it will accomplish anything at all because they don't actually *believe* it. At worst, it just reminds them of how ugly they actually think they are.


Finally, do you have any sources for this post? There are a lot of bold claims here. 


Fact, really? Last time I checked, the efficacy of positive affirmations was in severe doubt or even debunked. 


I think learning is the same process whether it's for a task like driving or the way we think, which influences our emotions and beliefs. These are habits, at first slow and deliberate, then becoming automatic just as the OP described. If we've had lot of negative conditioning or programming in our lives we can have self-destructive thought-patterns running through our minds all the time like malware if we don't overwrite them, which we can do by establishing more constructive thinking habits until they become automatic and dominant.


How you approach doing this though is a skill that takes some practice and trail and error. I agree the subconscious won't accept an idea or suggestion you don't accept consciously, so just saying "I am beautiful" if you don't believe it is likely to be rejected and make you feel worse about the issue, just as you said. So you might start smaller with something the mind can accept, like, "There's nothing wrong with the way I look, I'm fine just as I am," which is reasonable, and something you can build on.


Another good way is to use your imagination, again not by telling yourself how you should be or feel, but by gently asking questions as suggestions, such as "How would it feel to have no problems, and to have nothing wrong with me?" You are not telling yourself, "I feel great and there's nothing wrong with me," which the mind is not likely to accept if you don't believe it, you are asking what it would be like, and in doing so beginning to imagine and practice healthier states of being.