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In Topic: Muscle pains, hoping someone can relate

23 October 2020 - 05:17 AM



That's good you are getting tests done. Yes it's possible you have some sort of condition, but if you have health anxiety there is a big chance you are jumping to conclusions and imagining you have the worst thing you can find on good ol' Google!


Of course get checked for anything serious, but it's more likely to be something mundane. Now that I'm getting older I sometimes get aches and pains from inflammation depending on what I've been eating, which can be exacerbated by stress and nervous tension. 


I also think there can be a connection between things like depression and muscular pain, because our body has natural pain-killers like serotonin, and when we are depressed these are depleted, so we feel every ache much more strongly. Along with a good multi-vitamin, I often take a supplement called 5HTP, which is an over-the-counter antidepressant, for muscular pain, and you mentioned you are depressed. If you get treated for depression you may find the pain subsides.


There are other ways of increasing endorphins, such as with exercise, although I appreciate you might have to start gently with something like walking if you are in a lot of discomfort.


Anyway, just a few thoughts on the subject.

In Topic: Treatment for ocd/obsessive thoughts

16 October 2020 - 10:17 AM

It would be interesting as another angle. Certainly people who are able to break the cycle of obsession seem to recover more quickly, hence so much emphasis here on focusing on other things.


Have you posted it before, Mayer-Gross? If not, you should post it as a new thread, maybe in the Media section, so that people can recognize what it's about under its own title.


The first time I read someone here making a direct connection between OCD, Pure-O and depersonalization it was something of a revelation to me. Until then I had always thought of OCD as a quirky condition that didn't apply to me, and saw no immediate relationship to it and dissociation. I think it might be just as revealing to other people to see this connection, and that it has been known about for a long time.   

In Topic: Treatment for ocd/obsessive thoughts

14 October 2020 - 10:48 AM

This old text from 1978 focuses on the obsessive dimension depersonalization disorder. Some of the terms of terms are not used today but it has for almost a century been described that there within depersonalization disorder is a very strong obsessive compulsive element. Some will say that it was also there prior to the outset with a personality very absorbed with feelings of incompleteness in relation to the world, high ambitions and demands of acceptance. With the outset of depersonalization it just shifted the focus of what to obsesses about and feelings of lack of control on depersonalization symptoms and not the relation with the world.



Yep, it pretty much described me completely as well.


It's interesting how it's from 1978, with references going back well before then.

In Topic: how you can deal with extreme emotional numbness

09 October 2020 - 11:04 PM

The first thing is just to be aware you are doing it. Then you can be like, "Oh, I'm 'O'ing, okay, I see that." Then you can take a few deep breathes and let it go. 


This may be all you need to do, depending on how obsessive you are, but otherwise work on it with your therapist. 

In Topic: how you can deal with extreme emotional numbness

09 October 2020 - 10:19 PM

It sounds like you're panicking and spiraling in a loop.


Have you heard of "pure O"?


It's a type of OCD that's purely mental.