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#618236 How do you find the cause?

Posted by PerfectFifth on 29 May 2020 - 04:57 PM

You don't find the cause because the way you are is the result of interactions too many to count. Of course, with DPDR or a mental problem, in some cases there seems to have been a clear precipitating event, but even then you're only speculating because you can't determine its impact accurately. 

#617914 Do we exist in other universes/future?

Posted by PerfectFifth on 18 May 2020 - 06:14 PM

I am trying to get more stupid day by day

That's pretty original. Usually people try to do the opposite. 

#617902 Do we exist in other universes/future?

Posted by PerfectFifth on 18 May 2020 - 02:13 AM

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According to the growing block universe theory of time (or the growing block view), the past and present exist while the future does not.

Eternalism is the theory that past, present, and future exist at the same time.


Personally, I haven't seen evidence for any of it. 

I'm aware. Growing block universe and block universe are not the same. Eternalism is also known as the "block universe theory". 

#617818 100 percent recovery is possible

Posted by PerfectFifth on 13 May 2020 - 11:25 AM

But just as every piece of advice cannot work for every one, can we really say that symptoms can go away for everyone ? Although it can be unpleasant to think about this it might still be true.

No, and believing they can is laughably naive. It's an extremely simplistic way of seeing things. It doesn't properly take into account the possibility that there may be multiple different causes for the symptoms, some of whose resolving may well not be possible with the currently available methods/technology. This community is prone to viewing DPDR in a simplistic manner, as a definite disease of its own, shared by everyone here, with a definite one-size-fits-all cure.


Of course, it's possible for everyone to be completely cured hypothetically. It's hypothetically possible to isolate every molecule in a human being and reconfigure it, building something else, given the right technology (though this might result in death, lol). Whether someone will actually ever be cured, and how viable it is for any given individual, is a whole different matter and depends on the etiology of the particular instance of "DPDR." 


Just as there are many possible causes for headache or fatigue, there may be many causes for DPDR, and thus the mindset of DPDR being one thing with one way to fix it, or there being a way to fix it for certain in the first place, is laughable and betrays a superficial way of thinking. There are many issues for which there currently is no known cure. There is absolutely no reason to believe no instance of DPDR-type symptoms falls into this category. 

#617506 Am I making things appear?

Posted by PerfectFifth on 30 April 2020 - 12:08 PM

I'd say 99% of the products that I have thought about liking and whether they would come back all have and counting...

Or then 99% of the time they haven't, and you selectively remember when they have or remember wrong, possibly coming up with the "memory" post hoc. Memory is anything but reliable. No offence meant, but in unstable individuals such as yourself it's even less reliable. You're likely to remember things in a way that confirms your delusions.

#616548 A message in regard to our current situation

Posted by PerfectFifth on 28 March 2020 - 05:07 PM

O fear the economy may not recover ever again.

Good, maybe that will slow down the insane consumerism. 

#616516 Anyone else have it 24/7

Posted by PerfectFifth on 27 March 2020 - 03:22 PM

24/7 for a decade+.

#615018 The No-Cure Model

Posted by PerfectFifth on 19 February 2020 - 01:52 PM

This is stuff that's true, coming from my side, not a debate. I understand many people think full recovery from mental illness is possible, and I hope clinicians don't have the same fatalistic view in your region that they've had in the US for many lifetimes. By your standards of what's a real science, science has only existed for a few centuries, if that, and might retroactively not have existed as new, more advanced science comes into play.

A lot of medical science is good; psychiatry is just its rotten underbelly. I'm afraid your comment regarding my idea of science is a strawman as I never suggested anything like that. 

#614944 is treatment necessary or can you heal alone?

Posted by PerfectFifth on 17 February 2020 - 03:58 PM

It's possible, probably depending on the cause of DPDR symptoms. 

#614942 My recovery story after 7 long years thanks to john of god Faith Healer

Posted by PerfectFifth on 17 February 2020 - 03:57 PM

Snake oil salesmen everywhere. 

#614886 The No-Cure Model

Posted by PerfectFifth on 16 February 2020 - 05:18 PM

This isn't evidence. What is your evidence that what you are dealing with is different from others with this condition? This is not fact, this is speculation, and unfortunately from a place of doubt. You cannot prove that what they are dealing with is the same or different. But in the latter case, you are coming from a place of uncertainty/fear, with the former you are enforcing the idea that you can get better. Please read my second post in this thread. 


From a more academic angle, it has been shown that people with DPD demonstrate the same neurobiological underpinning (fronto-limbic model). So no, if you have DPD your condition is the same as anyone else with DPD. We see this in the brain scans of those who were monitored throughout recovery in one of the lamotrigine trials. People with DPD have an overactive rVLPFC which inhibits other brain regions. When lamotrigine worked for patients (as reported by improvements in subjective CDS ratings), they also detected objectively that the rVLPFC and affected brain regions were being normalised [link]. 


"perhaps" "what if" "but what about" --> none of this is really constructive, uncertainty fuels anxiety, fuels doubt. This is not necessary, if you want to recover, it starts with the belief that you can. Until you question this, you will stay stuck. Please read the full thread. 

Sure, it's not any evidence of anything at all. I never said that's the point I'm making. I realize some unknown percentage of those who self-diagnose themselves as having DPD actually have it and the rest don't. So yes, it follows that some of those who recovered were probably dealing with actual DPD and others probably didn't due to mis-/differing interpretation. 


Regarding the bottom part of your post, I honestly don't believe mental attitude has anything to do with it for me at this point. I've gone long stretches without paying it any attention at all and noticed no effect on it. I can be as pessimistic or optimistic about it as I like, and it won't budge. Trust me, I've gone through all the possible phases. Now I'm at the "I don't really care about it" -phase. Wasn't this sort of acceptance supposed to cure me?


It's affected by things such as exercise, which can either make it better or worse. Usually light exercise makes it slightly better, and maximum effort makes it worse. Being tired also makes it worse. 


"But how do we really know they really recovered"; "but how do we know they even had this disorder"; "but how do we know they had what I have"; "but what if we had different symptoms"; "what if I don't even have DPDR"; "but my brain is damaged" --> these sentences are the blocks, the veils, the dams between us and recovery. Just listen to those phrases, they come from a place of doubt, a place of uncertainty, a place of fear/anxiety. 

This is called rational deliberation. I'm not one to believe anything without thinking it through. "They come from a place of doubt?" You bet. What's wrong with having doubt when it's warranted? Understandably, this doubt extends to curing oneself through positive thinking alone. Could that work in some cases? Yes, very likely. Will it work in all cases, cases with decade-long chronic DP? Probably not. 


I'm not trying to say we should be collectively pessimistic about our recovery. I'm not implying there's no value to being optimistic about it. I'm just saying it's not quite so simple for everyone, especially those who have had it for a long, long time. 

#614860 Does Depersonilisation have any affect on your body?

Posted by PerfectFifth on 16 February 2020 - 05:25 AM

Are you talking about hypothetical knowledge and technology from the future?

Yep. When certain areas aren't only hypothesized to do something but that we know for sure what's going on, with pinpoint accuracy, assuming we'll ever get there before humanity goes extinct. 

#614302 Philosophy after a breakdown

Posted by PerfectFifth on 06 February 2020 - 10:22 AM

Yeah, it's not really a fault in a person. It's a natural part of growing up to form a worldview. The danger is when you become too attached to an ideology, to the point where you *are* the ideology and no longer able to, or be willing to, consider any opposing views, even when presented with valid evidence.


The way I see it, these pitfalls are all built into all of us, and the only thing that sets apart the people who can resist some of these biases and those who can't is self-awareness. Self-awareness makes it possible to willingly step outside the bubble and expand your horizon at the expense of psychological comfort, to varying degrees. 


"Every act of conscious learning requires the willingness to suffer an injury to one's self-esteem. That is why young children, before they are aware of their own self-importance, learn so easily." —Thomas Szasz

#613970 Why Isn't Everyone Else in the World Like This?

Posted by PerfectFifth on 03 February 2020 - 06:50 AM

God? I'm not terrified by that for the same reason I'm not terrified of ghosts. 

#613692 High Adrenaline, High Cortisol.. but can't seem to fit into any box..

Posted by PerfectFifth on 30 January 2020 - 05:06 PM

This is the first time I feel somewhat relaxed in a long, long time. What helped me? Steady-state low-intensity cardio; that is aerobic exercise. I think a big contributor to my nervous/anxious state has been that I've been training too hard. That has put my sympathetic nervous system into more or less permanent overdrive. The past week or so, I've done exclusively aerobic exercise (heart rate between around 125-150BPM), and I feel like it's significantly helped calm down my body and thus mind. 


Now, I realize I'm most likely not in the same boat as most of you in this thread—nor am I suggesting that your issues are necessarily caused (or fixed) by anything like this—but I just wanted to add this as a heads up: exercising too hard can fuck you up both mentally and physically, even for a long time after the exercise. It's essential to have a balance of low and high intensity training. Aerobic exercise promotes normal function of the parasympathetic (rest & digest) autonomic nervous system (regardless of overtraining). 


I read about this from some articles such as these: 



Aerobic Exercise. Studies have shown that light to moderate aerobic exercise such as walking or swimming for at least 30 minutes per day at least five days per week can improve the PNS 

(parasympathetic nervous system) response. Over time, the PNS response and Heart Rate Variability increase and Resting Heart Rate decreases. Mind-body centered exercise such as yoga and tai chi carry similar benefits.

Turns out it *did* make a difference for me, as I can now somewhat relax and enjoy things. I no longer feel the need to fidget around constantly and punch a hole into a wall as much. My sleep has improved.