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#1 Respekta

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Posted 22 December 2019 - 03:29 PM

Hey,

 

I do have these weird thoughts and feelings for 1 year now. I only "felt" real for 3 weeks in this time and knew it were just thoughts. I have to think about solipsism and that I am the only person that exists. It started with thoughts 1 year ago and now I kind of "feel" solipsism. It´s true that solipsism doesn´t make any sense yes, but it´s so hard to resist since I have such a weird feeling of being unreal and others are just figments of my mind.

 

I also have thoughts like " What if I have always been a solipsist?" 

I told myself 1 month ago, its okay to feel like this atm and that it isn´t permanent and it slowly began to fade and I felt a little more real and  connected to other people, but then out of nowhere everything felt unreal again. It´s like I woke up and everything felt so weird again and even though I kept telling myself that it´s okay to feel like that and to have these thoughts atm, it didn´t help and it´s been 1 week now, since I feel unreal again.

 

The past 3 weeks felt good and I was like 90% cured for that time, but now it feels like I am stuck in here forever.. :-/



#2 ivleo

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Posted 22 December 2019 - 07:51 PM

Go out. Enjoy life. Feel things.
Solipsism is a stupid philosophical matter that completely destroys anything that could be worth living.
The good news? It's total bullshit.
You're focusing on solipsism because you're scared of it, and fear makes everything seem real.
Why are you assuming it's true in the first place, and why solipsism?
Let me elaborate.
It's kind of like any other philosophical idea/religion.
Heaven, hell, non duality, nirvana.
Stuff like that. Solipsim is simply a scary idea, a construction of your warped state of mind due to dp.
You're not a solipsist, because who you are depends on your interactions with people and other surroundings. Don't be discouraged, you can get through this.

#3 Respekta

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Posted 22 December 2019 - 08:06 PM

Why are you assuming it's true in the first place, and why solipsism?

 

 

Only because I am so scared of this so my brain thinks it´s true. There is no reason to believe in this theory, but my brain wants to convince me and sometimes my brain is successful in doing so. 

I just don´t know how get back to where I was; I mean the past 3 weeks I felt good but after I woke up 4d ago, I have this weird feeling again



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Posted 23 December 2019 - 04:04 PM

Why have you come to the conclusion you will have it forever when it is now obvious you are experiencing recovery? That's how recovery goes, it is not a linear line, it is a drawn out process of uncertainty, ups, and downs. If I had 3 weeks of feeling 90%, i'd be over the moon. As it is, im stuck at 60. You have your proof that you are recovering now

Just realise that this is what recovery is like. There will be breaks in the storm and setbacks.

You're not a solipsist. You don't care about solipsism. It's not your interest. It is a bullshit notion you are being forced to experience by your worn down, anxious and overactive mind

Pure illusion and utter nonsense

Keep your positive side active and don't let anything break that. I've been where you are, now i laugh in the face of solipsism

You will be there too, and quite soon i reckon

#5 Respekta

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Posted 23 December 2019 - 04:19 PM

wow thank you very much, helps me a lot



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Posted 23 December 2019 - 04:38 PM

For now, just try and get back into that mode of acceptance.

Your brain will be trying to feed you false information all day. It's just what it wants to do right now.

The brain is an excellent servant, but a terrible master.

#7 ivleo

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Posted 23 December 2019 - 05:54 PM

I thought I was recovering as well. I had a complete mental breakdown over it today.
I don't wanna believe in solipsism, I hate it with all my heart..but since it can't be disproved my brain keeps telling me that there's a slight chance that it could be real, that all of this is an illusion. I keep going on the internet to look up articles about solipsism, I just can't stop.
Hopefully we'll get over this.

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Posted 23 December 2019 - 06:36 PM

Thing is, Ivleo, normal, non-DPd people have a tolerance for uncertainty. Anxious people do not. Everything must be known, everything must be set in stone. Enigmas are intolerable.

When I had solipsism it drove me insane.. the need to solidify my existence with whatever proof I could.

But I couldn't find any

At some point i decided even if this was some kind of whacky simulation id have some fun before the end

When i started having fun, over time i forgot it was a simulation

I regrew my tolerance for lifes uncertainty, and when i came back to solipsism a year later, it had become false, abstract, and not worthy of my time. I got my true mind back. So far away from the panic attacks and anguish of old times

I recovered completely. You can too

But you will never win by trying to think and argue your way out of it, that's just not how it works

#9 Respekta

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Posted 23 December 2019 - 07:24 PM

Hope I can overcome this as well. I think, as you mentioned, they key is to ignore it.. It´s hard and 9 out of 10 times I kind of ( not 100% ) believe what my brain tells me. I know my brain is trying to convince me that solipsism is true and it´s so hard to fight against it, but I think when you are back to "normal" state,  it will be much easier to understand. 
I don´t even care if you can proof or disproof solipism, I just want to be 99,999% certain that solipsism is false. I mean, you cannot be 100% certain, but I just want to be able to tell myself that solipsism isn´t true, but it´s so hard atm, which scares me as well. 2-3 y ago I was 100% sure solipsism is not true but now my brain doesn´t allow me that.



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Posted 23 December 2019 - 10:33 PM

I don´t mind if it´s a simulation or not, the only thing which disturbs me is the idea of being the only conscious person in the universe. I almost discarded all other stuff, but this one is hard for me



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Posted 24 December 2019 - 05:48 AM

You will overcome it. You're only thinking about the need to be certain or not because you're still under the influence of anxiety.

You say you cannot be 100% certain, but you can. I suffered it, now i am back in reality and i know, with no doubt in my mind, that solipsism is complete nonsense.

I don't even need any proof or rationalisation because I regained my sense of self, my self-assuredness, my emotions, empathy and sense of humour, and my relaxation.

When you feel like yourself again you will not even be thinking in terms of being 99% sure.

We're all real Respekta. Reality is how it always was and one day you will know this as fact.

Get some rest over the holiday period

#12 ivleo

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Posted 25 December 2019 - 05:00 AM

The evil demon thing scares me more than solipsism, honestly. Skepticism just isn't for me




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