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#1 realness

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Posted 22 October 2018 - 09:34 AM

Hi everyone.

From my recent experience I can confirm that for SOME people (like me), there probably is a link between gut health and derealization symptoms.

Having strongly suspected having some kind of gut or gut-brain axis imbalance/overgrowth/dysregulation,
I have tried many, many medicines, probiotics, antibiotics, herbals and who knows what.

Now...
I have been taking nystatin orally for past few days (anti-fungal agent, in the form of gastro-resistant capsules) and I can already say that my symptoms are so improved that I have hard time believing that I could survive in so bleak, faded, dull experience of reality. My vision has improved unbelievably, colors are vivid again, my unbearable muscle tension is at least 50% improved, 2D vision is gone, I can "feel connection" with objects again, I just feel so much better.

I am going to continue with treatment and see if it can be even better or if it remains like this.


TL;DR: took antifungal medication and improved very noticeably

#2 MichiganMade

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Posted 23 October 2018 - 10:30 AM

Extremely interesting. May give it a try. Let us know how you proceed via days and weeks and stat updates

#3 DerealizedDutchie

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Posted 26 October 2018 - 10:48 AM

Hi @realness

 

Very interesting post, because i'm searching for a cure in that area as well. I've been taking some natural supplements which supposedly will kill bad bacteria in the gut.

 

But everytime i start taking the supplements my body reacts in a strange way. I get flu-ish symptoms after taking it and my head feels extremely warm but it's not a fever.

 

Although it makes my physical symptoms worse i can feel it making a difference to my mental symptoms. Sadly, i can't take them longer than 2 days because my physical symptoms will get worse..

 

Long story short, can you tell me where you bought your supplements so that i can check them out. And did you need a doctor's receipt for it?

I looked it up, but i can only find nystatin sprays..

 

And please do keep us up to date with your progress!



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Posted 27 October 2018 - 06:55 AM

Yep, let us know how you get on :)

 

After reading your post I did a spit test for candida. I don't know how reliable it is, but it indicated I have candida overgrowth. While I don't think it caused my DP originally I think it's pretty likely it became a part of it as long term stress and poor lifestyle affected my gut health.

 

I've been taking garlic and iodine as they are anti-fungal and I do feel better, but I would like to get hold of some nystatin. I'll have to ask my GP as it's only available on prescription in the the UK.



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Posted 18 November 2018 - 09:58 AM

so, meanwhile, I had a difficulty getting hold of nystatin so I couldn't proceed as I wanted and went back to feeling horrible

anyways, I am back to taking it now - for last 5 days and at much larger dosage than before:

2 days ago I went through feeling very weird, had weird feelings and noises in my belly, headaches, my whole "consciousness" was fluctuating, it was like some kind of "travelling through dimensions" or what and after few hours....I FELT LIKE HUMAN, I felt  connected to the world guys, I felt PRESENT, I hear my voice normally, I can communicate with people, my horrible mush in head improved, I can literally feel how my mind process and chatter cleared up, unbearable tension in my mind and body is reduced, existential thoughts are decreased.

since then, it still fluctuates, but it is NOWHERE as bad as it was before, it just never gets as bad as before,



I am planning to try nystatin enemas as some people are recommending. Regardless, I am gonna continue with taking nystatin tablets and doing anti-candida diet.


@derealizeddutchie I obtained nystatin from online pharmacy in Germany where it is available without prescription. In my country (Slovakia), you need a prescription from doctor, but...even if you had it, nystatin tablets are not available here (only cream etc., similarly to what you say) and you need to get it from abroad. When I asked my doctor, she couldn't prescribe it just based on my words, so that could be quite problematic. But as I say, it depends on country (and doctor).



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Posted 19 November 2018 - 06:21 AM

I am glad you have found something that helps!

 

Can I ask a personal question? Do you have fungal nail at all? (sorry lol at least we are anonymous here). I have had fungal nail for about 16 years and hadn't treated it but have been trimming the nails and putting bleach on it every day for the last month. They are looking better and less yellow

 

I have also been taking vitamin d3, bulletproof coffee (coconut oil + butter) and medicinal mushrooms supplements with my coffee. These things are all good for immunity and coconut oil especially helps with candida. I am unsure what caused the shift, but I have a lot more energy and am sleeping far better recently. The mushroom supplement has the following:

Chaga - Cordyceps - Shiitake - Reishi - Lions mane - Maitake

 

They all have polysaccharides which the gut bacteria metabolise and this then improves immunity and they release small chain fatty acids. For me fat is your friend, MASSIVELY! Don't eat too many carbs or sugar, but fat and fibre are hugely important

 

I would also add that I have made a lot of progress in therapy. I feel that has helped as well as the supplements



#7 realness

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Posted 24 November 2018 - 02:35 PM

@Broken No, I don't have fungal nail. Don't remember ever having it either.

Nice to hear you made a progress. Btw, I too am experimenting with coconut oil. And Ive been taking some adaptogens intermittently (like SIberian and Ginseng) too, along with vitamin D. Trying to support my body after this horrible stress, regardless of what exactly is wrong. 

 



#8 DerealizedDutchie

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 02:00 PM

hi realness,

 

how are you holding up as of now? still making progress?



#9 DerealizedDutchie

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Posted 31 December 2018 - 02:57 AM

Realness please update :)

I started pro-biotics last week and after that i will try to get rid of all the bad bacteria again with a natural cocktail containing black walnut and more. Last time i tried it i got a lot of reaction from my body.

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Posted 31 December 2018 - 06:30 AM

Just bought some Pau d'arco tea, which is meant to be good for all this sort of thing. I do notice a difference depending on what I'm consuming. Often I live on sandwiches, which is not good.



#11 pinggvin

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Posted 31 December 2018 - 11:27 PM

Then you people has no real depersonalisation-derealisation. You might have physical condition that emits similar symptoms, but as someone who suffered from very chronic dp/dr , i can surely say it has nothing to do with bactery or fungal infection. There are many conditions that can be mistaken to dp/dr



#12 DerealizedDutchie

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Posted 01 January 2019 - 02:27 AM

Lol, please don’t tell me what i suffer from. I’m not saying i got mine from gut related problems, it’s just that i’m experiencing very severe problems in that area. If it can only improve my situation by 5% i’ll take it.

And besides that, gut problems CAN cause dpdr, just saying. If you dont know anything about the connection between the gut and mental health you should definitely read more about it. It’s real.




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