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#1 ·
I saw this very, very, interesting video about this girl who says that curing DP by ignoring doesn't work. I watched the video, and honestly? Seems more plausible than ignoring it.

Here. See it by yourself, I promise it's worth it. Just go with an open mind. :)



Also, check out her channel! I promise you won't regret. It helped me SO MUCH. =D
 
#2 ·
I totally agree. I'm always annoyed when people say just 'ignore' it, it will go away on its own, which is horrible advice because if you do that, you may as well wait until the day you die to get magically cured. And she also addresses where that advice comes from, that when you do the opposite, obsessing about it, it is making it worse which is true, so when people start to relax about it and start participating in normal life and especially doing things they like doing and hanging out with people they like, it may go away but that's not the same as ignoring it, because you a/stopped making it worse, by obsessing and resisting it and b/ you start putting your attention elsewhere, that way you stop resisting (what you resist, persists) and start doing what you actually enjoy. However, for many this may not even be possible due to fears being too big to handle which gets in the way of doing what you want and deeper-lying trauma's creating negative feelings that we tend to IGNORE already all the time as she says. The root-cause of DP for many is a continuous habitual ignoring of feelings and resisting of wanting to be here that for many results in a coping addiction of maladaptive daydreaming and excessive (existential) thinking. Perhaps, those who were cured from simply so called 'ignoring' or lets say doing what they enjoy doing and stopped obsessing about the condition, didn't have severe underlying trauma to begin with. Some may also need certain foods, supplements to cure a chemical imbalance, but I think most need either to deeply work on their underlying issues or somehow find a way to get in life what you want so that at a core emotional level you WANT to be here, this way you will be cured in a split-second, because DP can start in a split-second and it can end just as fast, but if you don't stop ignoring reality and get in touch with your emotions or create the reality you want, so you will automatically will want to live in this reality and not just your daydreams, you can stay stuck for years. I would compare dissociation with fainting, but DP/DR is like losing consciousness in a less extreme way than fainting, you're still aware, but less aware and not completely unaware, therefore things seem less real and we know that the body loses consciousness because it became overwhelmed and it happens very fast out of your control, because it's not a rational decision. DP can also happen just as fast from being emotionally overwhelmed due to severe anxiety and/ or extreme resistance of being in an ugly reality, resulting in an unconscious reflex to zone out, but we're not completely unconscious so we can work on waking up or coming back so to speak and not pretend that everything is fine if that's not how you truly feel.
 
#3 ·
I totally agree. I'm always annoyed when people say just 'ignore' it, it will go away on its own, which is horrible advice because if you do that, you may as well wait until the day you die to get magically cured. And she also addresses where that advice comes from, that when you do the opposite, obsessing about it, it is making it worse which is true, so when people start to relax about it and start participating in normal life and especially doing things they like doing and hanging out with people they like, it may go away but that's not the same as ignoring it, because you a/stopped making it worse, by obsessing and resisting it and b/ you start putting your attention elsewhere, that way you stop resisting (what you resist, persists) and start doing what you actually enjoy. However, for many this may not even be possible due to fears being too big to handle which gets in the way of doing what you want and deeper-lying trauma's creating negative feelings that we tend to IGNORE already all the time as she says. The root-cause of DP for many is a continuous habitual ignoring of feelings and resisting of wanting to be here that for many results in a coping addiction of maladaptive daydreaming and excessive (existential) thinking. Perhaps, those who were cured from simply so called 'ignoring' or lets say doing what they enjoy doing and stopped obsessing about the condition, didn't have severe underlying trauma to begin with. Some may also need certain foods, supplements to cure a chemical imbalance, but I think most need either to deeply work on their underlying issues or somehow find a way to get in life what you want so that at a core emotional level you WANT to be here, this way you will be cured in a split-second, because DP can start in a split-second and it can end just as fast, but if you don't stop ignoring reality and get in touch with your emotions or create the reality you want, so you will automatically will want to live in this reality and not just your daydreams, you can stay stuck for years. I would compare dissociation with fainting, but DP/DR is like losing consciousness in a less extreme way than fainting, you're still aware, but less aware and not completely unaware, therefore things seem less real and we know that the body loses consciousness because it became overwhelmed and it happens very fast out of your control, because it's not a rational decision. DP can also happen just as fast from being emotionally overwhelmed due to severe anxiety and/ or extreme resistance of being in an ugly reality, resulting in an unconscious reflex to zone out, but we're not completely unconscious so we can work on waking up or coming back so to speak and not pretend that everything is fine if that's not how you truly feel.
Agreed. Thank you for commenting :)
 
#4 ·
You're welcome :)

Have you watched her other video's? I'm currently watching another good one:

The Ultimate DPDR Healing Tips and Takeaways and what's also very true is what her therapist told her that DP is a very logical reaction to the trauma we've experienced. Of course we have DP because the trauma we experienced (as if not bad enough on its own) was never acknowledged by the people around us nor ourselves, so that's a very important starting point into trying to heal DP. I've already gathered from other people's personal stories on here that it is often due to insidious,emotional abuse during childhood and because it's rather subtle and not so obvious but regardless very harmful, it never becomes acknowledged so when your feelings are not attended to, you sort of have to stop existing (become DP'ed) because we, our actual souls live through our emotions and we can not be here if we're not treated right emotionally. But we're not actually dead, so we just pretend to be dead which ties into the freeze response, an animalistic instinct to deal with fear , kind of like zoning out as I mentioned before. And because this made us more unconscious I think trying to find out what actually triggered this is an important starting point, because what makes army veterans who have experienced trauma suffer from PTSD with flashbacks versus people like us who also have experienced trauma react/cope differently to trauma? I think the big difference is that nobody in the veteran's surroundings that is important to him (when he comes back home) is denying what happened, so there's not an immediate need to 'disappear' because people are acknowledging the wrongs what happened to the veteran and also what soldiers experience is the type of trauma that is obvious, not insidious and invisible such as purely emotional abuse, so it's much harder to deny it. This makes me think that although on the surface PTSD may seem worse because of re-experiencing the trauma, dissociation is more the result of trauma and often multiple or complex trauma that comes with an extra layer of emotional abuse in the form of denial of what was done to you. There are also some personality traits that makes one more prone to get into dissociative mode such as being highly sensitive, but if you are like that, then that also means you need a higher amount of respect (that comes along with many subtleties) to have your emotional needs met.

Anyways, I'm gonna watch her other video's as well, since a lot of what she says rings true to me. :)
 
#5 ·
You're welcome :)

Have you watched her other video's? I'm currently watching another good one:

The Ultimate DPDR Healing Tips and Takeaways and what's also very true is what her therapist told her that DP is a very logical reaction to the trauma we've experienced. Of course we have DP because the trauma we experienced (as if not bad enough on its own) was never acknowledged by the people around us nor ourselves, so that's a very important starting point into trying to heal DP. I've already gathered from other people's personal stories on here that it is often due to insidious,emotional abuse during childhood and because it's rather subtle and not so obvious but regardless very harmful, it never becomes acknowledged so when your feelings are not attended to, you sort of have to stop existing (become DP'ed) because we, our actual souls live through our emotions and we can not be here if we're not treated right emotionally. But we're not actually dead, so we just pretend to be dead which ties into the freeze response, an animalistic instinct to deal with fear , kind of like zoning out as I mentioned before. And because this made us more unconscious I think trying to find out what actually triggered this is an important starting point, because what makes army veterans who have experienced trauma suffer from PTSD with flashbacks versus people like us who also have experienced trauma react/cope differently to trauma? I think the big difference is that nobody in the veteran's surroundings that is important to him (when he comes back home) is denying what happened, so there's not an immediate need to 'disappear' because people are acknowledging the wrongs what happened to the veteran and also what soldiers experience is the type of trauma that is obvious, not insidious and invisible such as purely emotional abuse, so it's much harder to deny it. This makes me think that although on the surface PTSD may seem worse because of re-experiencing the trauma, dissociation is more the result of trauma and often multiple or complex trauma that comes with an extra layer of emotional abuse in the form of denial of what was done to you. There are also some personality traits that makes one more prone to get into dissociative mode such as being highly sensitive, but if you are like that, then that also means you need a higher amount of respect (that comes along with many subtleties) to have your emotional needs met.

Anyways, I'm gonna watch her other video's as well, since a lot of what she says rings true to me. :)
Nice, I really recommend her videos.
 
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