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#1 WreckingHotelRooms

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 10:13 PM

I wish I was good at writing tittles or even writing. I'd love to a good discussion as this is easily the best question i'll probably write, it's all down hill from here.

 

I'd like loads of opinions, stories and thoughts as possible.  

 

I'll give two examples as I'm finding it hard putting this into the right words

 

1. Say you get DP from going out and taking a substance, for example the movie numb, smoked weed. From that day forward your head feels funny, numb and all the usual stuff we all know too well. 

 

The usual assumption would be there is something wrong with my brain as my brain felt weird that night and still does. 

In his case though, he fixed his Cortisol and cured his DP. 

 

2. In my case, DP from stronger drugs. Turns out later down the line I have Adrenal Fatigue. By treating Adrenal Fatigue could it cure DP or do you think that it couldn't?

(not talking about specifically about Cortisol, rather the idea of getting cured from something unrelated to the cause) 

 

 

 

My formulae conundrum; 

 

A = weak adrenal glands.  B = bad drug trip trigger.  

 

A and B could be unrelated. I think it was just B and I now from stress also have A... but a very small percent of me thinks, maybe it could be B with A kicking in and keeping DP going?

 

My question is can the trigger, the drug trip (or whatever trigger) put you into DP but maybe trigger something else that is keeping you in it, for example hormones that when treated kills of the DP? (and dp we have any examples of this?) 

 

 

EDIT: just been told an example of this, Bignoknow (Noah) triggered DP with medication to stop his drink addiction, yet cured it with Testosterone replacement therapy.  



#2 Billy D.P.

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 10:50 PM

I think the most important common ground for topics like this is to agree everyone has a different experience with different symptoms, different severity levels and different ways in which they obtained their DP and are going about recovering. If I've learned anything from reading these boards it's that the term "depersonalization" is very broad and often times people are talking about different things without realizing it. 

 

It's entirely plausible people here experience DP as a result of hormonal imbalances, nutrient deficiencies, neuronal dysfunction, central nervous system breakdowns and so on, but the truth is until there's significant science on this subject we're all just throwing out fairly loose ideas of what's going on with our physiology. It's just important to keep in mind that this condition and set of symptoms clearly isn't beholden to a single source, that we all arrive here on vastly different roads and that the solutions to one person's problem may not work for the other 90 percent of this community. 

 

That's my two cents. 



#3 WreckingHotelRooms

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 10:52 PM

Yeah I agree, but all I really wonder is CAN... CAN the solution be different than the cause. I get we all need different ways out



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Posted 01 May 2017 - 01:10 AM

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#5 forestx5

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 09:54 AM

Is there such a thing as "adrenal fatigue"?  The term often shows up in popular health books and on alternative medicine websites, but it isn't an accepted medical diagnosis.

  • Fatigue
  • Body aches
  • Unexplained weight loss
  • Low blood pressure
  • Lightheadedness
  • Loss of body hair
  • Skin discoloration (hyperpigmentation)

Proponents of the adrenal fatigue diagnosis claim this is a mild form of adrenal insufficiency caused by chronic stress. The adrenal glands produce hormones

with levels that can be detected in the blood.

It's frustrating to have persistent symptoms your doctor can't readily explain. One is tempted to agree to  a diagnosis that

is not medically recognized or accepted.  Look at the recommended treatments for adrenal fatigue....rest, relaxation, reduce stress, etc.

One might just as well be diagnosed with Depersonalization  LOL. 

I think the logical progression is  dp - stress - adrenal fatigue, with the latter being the effect rather than the cause.



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Posted 01 May 2017 - 11:29 AM

Interesting, Forestx5 thanks for replying. That's kinda what I thought it came from stress but isn't the key to solving DP.

 

Just kinda throwing this out there to see if someone cured DP by curing something that started or had nothing to do with the trigger.

 

Yeah you are right about it not being recognised. Just as my mum got told by doctors when she was younger she did not have ME and it was not recognised or diagnosed. It was deemed 'Alternative' until in 2012 they found out definitively. 

 

I have all the symptom but more importantly it does not matter if we call it Adrenal fatigue really. My Endo basically got me thinking this way, it sucks to not have a name that people believe, but at least on paper my Cortisol is really badly wrong, Testosterone wrong and I failed a Synachen test. So if you want to call it Adrenal Fatigue or just hormone problems... whatever. 

 

My main symptoms is being completely WIRED mentally 24/7 yet so fatigued I can't walk to the shop. 

 

My GP said I am the first person who fits it so well that he now believes it. 

 

I guess it's a pretty easy thing to get living with DP, stress and anxiety overtaxed my adrenal...  sound logical to me.

 

 

Thanks for the replies so far. 







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