Questionnaires to Measure Depersonalization
Posted 10 October 2015 - 02:39 PM
Posted 10 October 2015 - 10:11 PM
14. It seems as if things that I have recently done had taken place a long time ago. For example anything which I have done this morning feels as if it were done weeks ago.
16. I feel detached from memories of things that have happened to me - as if I had not been involved in them.
are asking after symptoms of dissociative amnesia for one's biographical information. Having symptoms which rise both to the levels of dissociative amnesia and DP disorder together is a form of DDNOS, now called Other Specified Dissociative Disorder under DSM-5. Treatment for DDNOS is suggested to follow the DID/DDNOS treatment guidelines published here:
One reason that so many on this board are refractory to "treatment" for DP may be because they in fact have a higher order dissociative condition which indicates employment of a treatment paradigm that they have not yet availed themselves.
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Posted 11 October 2015 - 03:53 AM
are asking after symptoms of dissociative amnesia for one's biographical information.
These items do not ask for amnesia, because amnesia means you cannot access memory, while the CDS-items mean that the memory feels different although it's available.
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Posted 12 October 2015 - 07:36 PM
Dissociative amnesic events are not like what is commonly thought about amnesia. In particular, DA refers specifically to the disruptions in recall of biographical events. One's sense for when something happened to them is an aspect of biographical recall. The main point, however, is that the grab-bag of symptoms that many on this board attribute to DP, and similarly, the grab-bag of symptoms that those who study DP alone attribute to DP alone, are mistaken to the extent that such symptoms are indicative of dissociative conditions beyond mere DP, which these board participants and DP-scientists fail to consider. The consequence of limited one's view of symptoms as being part of a DP-only phenomenon is that treatments geared toward the greater spectrum dissociative disorders are not applied when in fact the sufferer is laboring under these greater conditions and could benefit from a more precisely targeted treatment paradigm.
Posted 12 October 2015 - 08:07 PM
Additional screeners and diagnostic tests for depersonalization, what follows below is quoted from http://www.dissociat...zation_disorder
SCI-DER, Cambridge Depersonalization Scale and Steinberg Depersonalization Test
The SCI-DER, CDS and Steinberg Depersonalization Test are all questionnaires designed to assess depersonalization and derealization in order to assess symptoms, although these should not be used for a definitive diagnosis.
[Below are some links for the above mentioned screener tests, none which are NOT diagnostic:
SCI-DER: http://www.ncbi.nlm....les/PMC2626926/ (impresses me as a bit of a scid-d ripoff)
Steinberg screener for DP: http://www.strangeri...stionnaire.html
Here is a general dissociation screener looking for any type of dissociative symptom suggestive of a dissociative disorder: http://www.hebpsy.ne...eKcvt6dBZpS.pdf
that one can be taken and scored automatically if opened in Acrobat reader.
This is a structured clinical interview, which is the diagnostic tool for depersonalization/derealization disorder and all dissociative disorders. It was developed by Dr Marlene Steinberg to assess all dissociative disorders. Dr Steinberg is co-author of the well known book THE STRANGER IN THE MIRROR: Dissociation The Hidden Epidemic.
[DDIS: Another less sensitive diagnostic interview, highly structured, is the DDIS, that can be seen here:
Posted 12 October 2015 - 08:41 PM
redacted, my sense is that many on this list report symptoms like this list posted just today in the forum, and if upon reflection (or inspection of people's postings) you agree that such complaints are common, you may then want to adjust your statement of "rarely (never?) see complains of actual amnesia on this forum":
"So I've posted previously about what I'm going through lately. In a nutshell, I've felt spaced out and off balance for quite some time (a little over a year now) and as of a few weeks have been having some issues with focus, disorientation, concentration and short term memory, primarily when it comes to recalling the day's events, retaining information, and knowing precisely what I said, and to who. Along with it, I've been having frequent panic attacks regarding what's happening to me, as well as flare-ups of OCD, trouble sleeping, and basically just feeling lonely, inconsolable and overly worried pretty much 24/7 over the past month. In short, it's been hell. I'm currently taking a low dose of citalopram daily, as well as a xanax morning and night for the panic, which is helping a little."
Posted 02 February 2016 - 07:39 AM
Thanks for posting this TDX!
I have one to share as well: http://biobehavioral...ticle.php?id=19
I got 8-9 of this(I think in this one, there are questions that an OCD sufferer might answer as yes) and I scored 150 at the Cambridge scale. I was doing good last weeks but didn't know it was that good. I feel a little detachment and sometimes I have brain fog/concentration problems but I don't have the other symptoms. Does this mean I have dp?
Posted 13 April 2016 - 05:11 PM
I got 8-9 of this(I think in this one, there are questions that an OCD sufferer might answer as yes)
The test has never been validated, so we don't really know if it's a good test.
and I scored 150 at the Cambridge scale.
If you have more than 70 points in CDS it's likely that you have Depersonalization Disorder. But even with this cut-off the misclassification rate is roughly 10%. It's not a substitue to a psychiatric diagnosis.
That's the best test imo, concise yet comprehensive.
In my opinion it's crap. For example if you set item 14 ("I have felt that my emotions are not in my control") to "Almost all of the time" and you check all the 3 items on how it inteferes with your life the questionare says that you have "Mild Depersonalization".
There are some psychiatric disorders where patients have difficulty to control their emotions, like depression (if you're not numb), PTSD or Borderline. But inability to control emotions is not a DP-symptom. Because of this the validity seems questionable to me.
It's also unclear how Steinberg came to the ranges for classifying the severity. The questionare was never published anywhere and it was never validated.
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