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#1 Optimist

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 02:02 AM


Hello everyone,

 

 

 

After spending about a horrible year in the midst of this so called "disorder", I can say I am entirely 100% out of it. DP has shown no trace for months. Everything feels normal, nothing feels alien or unreal. I don't do those existential thoughts anymore. Everything in my life feels exactly like it did before DP hit me. My emotions are absolutely back to normal and exploding. The most important indication that I have conquered this is that I don't even remember how DP feels like. It feels like I've been normal all long, even during the times when DP was at its peaks. It's funny how your brain works. When DP'ed, you will feel like you've always been in that state, you even start questioning how you were before DP, or whether or not you ever were even normal.  After recovery, it feels like you've always been normal, even when in the middle of DP struggling. You will even start laughing at yourself for suffering this long. 

 

 

 

I remember back then when I was suffering, I would read the posts of those who recovered and said "it's all in your head, you're all normal to earth, just live a normal life and you will recover". My reaction would be: " screw you, this all can't be just in my head !! You obviously have no clue what you are talking about." I used to believe that I have an illness and I am fucked in the head. This made me waaaay more stressed, and thus dp would get worse. I always thought those who recovered had a DP that was milder than mine, or theirs was somehow different altogether. Somehow i knew that I won't recover like them. yeah, all the negativity, no wonder DP lasted that long. Somehow, everyone believes that their version of DP is the worst.

 

 

Now, to the main question, how to recover.

 

The answer: NOTHING. yep, nothing. Other than to fully accept it. Some would say: but I tried to accept but DP still lingers for years. Well, I've been there, you weren't actually accepting it deep down. Believing that you have accepted it doesn’t mean that you actually have successfully accepted it! There are two different levels of acceptance: accepting on the surface, and accepting deep down. Do you want a proof that you haven’t fully accepted your state: what the hell are you doing on this forum? and why are you reading my post?

 

You aren't on this website unless this condition is bothering you, so tell me again how you have come to accept it? Well, you haven’t. To accept it is to actually live with it as though it exactly never exists. It should never bother you anymore. Even though I heard this advice once DP hit me, I only started to apply it successfully after about 10 months of suffering. It is that hard. You actually have to feel or show no emotions/reactions AT ALL whenever an episode of DP strikes. Here’s a list of questions, if you answer to even one of them with a yes, then you haven’t accepted your DP:

 

-       Do you sincerely hate your DP feelings?

-       Do you wish to recover from this and never have it again?

-       Are you trying to rush your recover?

-       Have you stopped practicing some of your activities or postponed them until after recovery?

-       Do you constantly check on how your feeling, or rate your DP from 1 to 10?

-       Do you spend hours researching the condition online?

-       Do you wish you never had this condition?

-       Do you think fate was unfair for you to have suffered with this?

-       Do you think you are unhappy because of DP?

 

The list can go on and on, but I think that would be sufficient to convey my message.

 

I am sure that vast majority here would answer with a yes to all of the questions, or even add 50 more questions and answer them with a yes. If you do, then I suggest reconsidering that you actually haven’t even taken the first step into recovery. Stop moaning and start living !!

 

I repeat, it’s not easy to fully accept it. It’s hard to pretend that you don’t hate those feelings it brings. It’s hard to not think negatively and ruminate all day long when it strikes you. One word: distraction. No matter how chronic or severe your condition is, if you distract yourself for long enough without rejecting your DP in anyway, you will be on the right track.

 

Now, you all have to realize one thing, this website is TOXIC. Not only that it’s filled with negatively and people who halt your recovery, it actually forces you subconsciously to think about DP. Remember: thinking about DP even in the slightest means you’re not fully accepting it.

 

You don’t have to follow a certain lifestyle or take specific medications to get over this. Many different studies have shown that SSRI pills have the same effect as placebo pills. You don’t need them as they do more destruction than to actually cure you magically.

 

 

If you want to have a strict lifestyle for recovery, sure please do. If that works, good for you. However, This actually can work against recovery for some people. For example, some would say you have to cut down on coffee since it increases anxiety. Whenever I did that, I found myself more thinking of DP and rejecting the its feelings. In other words, it kept me away from accepting it. A strict lifestyle to get rid of DP means you’re trying hard to recover, which means you’re NOT fully accepting it. Though some people managed to recover following that. Not me however.

 

 

In my opinion, psychiatrists aren't the best to treat this. They will label you with a “disorder” and give you drugs that work no better than a placebo. This labeling alone can crush recovery for some people. You will start to think that you are different, unfortunate, and less than other people. Even though you aren't in any way. You will research online to only find stories of those others who got labeled and didn't feel better, and you will assume the same will happen to you. Labeling will force you to walk in a very specific way in life, even though you are free to walk wherever you want. Dark thoughts and pessimism will be planted in your head, and worse suffering is to follow. Even though their intention might be pure, I do believe a lot of psychologist and psychiatrists worsen the condition of sufferers. All of anxiety, depression, and many other mental disorders are still unclear to them even though they believe they know it all. However, when you ask those who actually recovered WITHOUT medication, and you will hear different approaches.

 

 

 

I have mumbled for a little while, I apologize for a long post. I even have not organized my thoughts before typing this. I just opened a new thread and said here whatever I had on mind. I just know how much I loved reading recovery stories back then. It lit my tunnel with hope, and I would like to do the same here. This is completely curable I assure you. I do believe that most people recover from this. However, we all leave forums for good and forget about it. That’s why you only see those negative people lingering around here and spreading false facts.

 

 

I will try to answer questions as much as I can. I will try to pull myself back to this forum from time to time.

 

All of you DP people, this will go away I assure you. Just never come back to these forums again and live your life to the maximum. FULLY ACCEPT YOUR DP, DEEP DOWN. Don’t just say that you do. There's nothing wrong with your brain. Remember that !!

 

Wish you all the best.



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 03:26 AM

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#3 philandrjack

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 04:45 AM

I'm sorry but I disagree. What about the array of psychological problems that brought on dp? Like codependency, low self esteem, emotional abuse, disfunctional families, people pleasing, anxiety, not having a secure base etc?
I tried ignoring Dp and things got better I was able to live on my own, go to uni, get a girlfriend, but basically my life still sucked and dp persisted because I never faced the true causes of the disorder.
Maybe people like you and Delicate don't have proper DPD maybe you have just DP brought on by stress, because it makes no sense that if DP is brought on by emotional repression, just by ignoring dp you start to emotinally express yourself again.
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#4 JuliusCeasar

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 10:02 AM


Hello everyone,

 

 

 

After spending about a horrible year in the midst of this so called "disorder", I can say I am entirely 100% out of it. DP has shown no trace for months. Everything feels normal, nothing feels alien or unreal. I don't do those existential thoughts anymore. Everything in my life feels exactly like it did before DP hit me. My emotions are absolutely back to normal and exploding. The most important indication that I have conquered this is that I don't even remember how DP feels like. It feels like I've been normal all long, even during the times when DP was at its peaks. It's funny how your brain works. When DP'ed, you will feel like you've always been in that state, you even start questioning how you were before DP, or whether or not you ever were even normal.  After recovery, it feels like you've always been normal, even when in the middle of DP struggling. You will even start laughing at yourself for suffering this long. 

haha that is true...i have dp/dr again from depression... but what you said is true...this is what was i thinking when i recovered back in 2009/2010. It was like dp was just like flu. But now it is like first time... pure hell for 3 months. Still remember after i recovered sometime when i was depressed i wanted to go to Dp state thinking like Dp was way better then this shit depression. Wish you all the best...and hope you don't go trough dp again like me....now it seams it will last forever.



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#6 philandrjack

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 03:28 PM

I understand your point of view, and I'm not trying to undermine your struggle with the disorder, and if I did I apologize. However I don't understand how you can separate DP from the cause. For example you say that you had a great life and a great family with a lot of love but still had DP, so what was causing it? Just the fact that you obsessed over it? I don't obsess about DP, I am able to fully function in my life with DP but I don't like my life, I'm not able to express myself and this is causing DP. 

And to say "If you have these other issues, then why are you on this forum, trying to recover from DP?" makes absolutely no sense, as DP is CAUSED by these issues. It's like saying: "If you're fat, why are you going to the gym you need to loose weight first".



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 04:22 PM

@Optimist, Amazing topic! I am so happy to have read your story and I wish you the best in your life man!

I am preparing myself to start not giving damn about DP/DR but first I need to do a bit more tests. I want to eliminate all possible physiological causes of my DP/DR cause that's the onyl way I cab become completely determined and start not caring at all :)

 

@Administration and Moderation, my ultimate respect to you! As opposed to so many other forum staffs, you people actually haven't made this topic mysteriously disappear regardless of the fact that this text by Optimist doesn't help promote traffic and activity to this forum, for obvious reasons :)

 

If today's doctors and society in general was as good as you people are, this world would be a much better place to live in.

 

I don't mean to kiss up to you or anything like that, as a matter of fact I just registered here, and I did so mainly to tell you this!



#8 OvercomeTheAnxietyDP/DR

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 05:27 PM

Curing DP and curing those issues are not done in the same way, or even at the same time. They shouldn't be. If your other problems are big enough, then the focus should be on those, and DP should be put to the side, until you have those deeper issues sorted. Then, when they are, the DP may have naturally left you but if not, THEN come back on this forum for advice. If you have these other issues, then why are you on this forum, trying to recover from DP? One way to stay stuck is to try and tackle both at once - which is evident in your case as you are still on this forum. If DP however IS the bigger issue for you, then you can recover from that and move on in your life. I had a neglectful upbringing, parents who never changed their selfish ways (to this day) but it was a lesser issue to the DP, which I had in fact slowly, without therapy, "matured" myself away from the situation, so I now have a home in a different county, I'm married, I have security, love, happiness - I don't need to be in that situation that I grew up in, I accepted my parents and I let it go. So for me, DP was the bigger issue. All I had to deal with was the present moment and in that present moment my life was great - but I had DP, for 6 years. So that was my focus (or not, as it works out :P) for recovery. To say that we didn't have "proper" DP (whatever that is) for being able to recover a certain way is a little naive.

Same thing, i'm 23 now, I live in a dysfunctional house hold, but let me say this, do you think I should go to Job Corp? They take ages 16-24



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 10:10 PM

I think DP is different for everyone, one has it because of anxiety another because of depression, I have it because I have mini seizures in my brain so it s organic, so I can accept all I want and not think about it but it won t go away...happy that you recovered but you cannot generalize for everyone...


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#10 kimnyborg

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:50 AM

great written but before i take you advice i have to try antidepressive maybe it will make DP less annoying.



#11 lautje

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 06:23 AM

I now it really works. Because it works for me before and distraction.
But I'm on now again and forget how I accepted it.
Do you have any tips how you can accept it?

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 02:48 PM

Optimist, I have only one for you or maybe two. THANKYOU.




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