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#25 S.Snake

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 04:21 AM

I got DP because I was a dumbass and let my friend put Kief in the bowl. It was easily the shittiest feeling ever.

DP is easily the worst thing that has happened to me in my entire life. But I am trying to turn it into a positive experience through spirituality.

#26 ElectricRelaxation

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 09:31 AM

Then it must be self evident to you that there is some connection between weed and dp

Did you read anything I wrote or just skimmed past my post?

Ofcourse there is a connection, if someone smokes high amounts of THC and tries to control the feeling, freaking out is a given. If DP can be caused by physical or emotional trauma, then why wouldn't your brain shut down when you're panicking and high out of your fucking mind?

Believe it or not, a lot of people catch DP after a panic attack on weed and then recover a couple weeks later, just search the net. My point is anxiety/depression/stress prevents recovery once you've caught DP. Even worse; never leaving your house for a long time because you fear any type of human interaction leads to Derealization. When I caught DP last year from weed I didn't have DR because I was leaving my house...

Fixing all the problems in your life, and exercising OUTSIDE like a machine aids in recovery, because your kicking the shit out of your DP'd brain, increasing nitric oxide, cerebral blood flow, releasing endorphins, all that good shit.

I smoked with my girlfriend last night and felt more connected to my body physically and emotionally then I have in MONTHS...right now I'm feeling pretty good and not really feeling any symptoms. I don't understand why it's so hard to grasp how the same drug that brought you here can get you the fuck outta here if you're at least ATTEMPTING to take back your life.

Keep feeling bad for yourself and constantly self-checking instead of getting off your ass, you're going to be stuck in this DP world for a while...

#27 Magrathea

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 02:01 PM

Keep feeling bad for yourself and constantly self-checking instead of getting off your ass, you're going to be stuck in this DP world for a while...


I have had dp/dr for nearly twenty years and i think it was triggered by weed. During that twenty year period, i once got so fit i could nearly run up a mountain. My fitness made no difference whatsoever to my DP(none Zap zilch, zero)

There have been periods of months in which i had to all intents and purposes entirely forgotten about DP - this also made no odds to my dp

I was extremely anxious about it for the first year, after which my anxiety levels varied with what was happening in my life - these variances in anxiety made no difference at all to my DP

I have in that time varied my diet from awful to absolutely perfect - this also made no difference at all to my DP

I am now practically entirely recovered. While recovering i have been constantly and obsessively self checking and watching for improvements, I presently have an awful diet and engage in little exercise and i am getting better by leaps and bounds.


This is why i think you are over-generalising from your perfectly valid experiences

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 03:48 PM

Jesus, twenty years, thats a long time to live (and a lot of acceptance). Thank you for staying strong and not doing anything drastic.

I don't know, maybe its because I had been smoking for a good year before I ever got a DP panic attack, I've always used exercise as a way to free myself of stress and anxiety, so it's possible my body and brain allowed me to be more at rest with my self and aided in recovering. Maybe its because I'm young and could easily bounce back. Like I said before some people who got it from weed have recovered on their own in weeks or months.

Too much self checking is just a waste of time, time that you could be using having fun, socializing, or drinking Posted Image.

By the way, when you were keeping up with fitness, were you weight training? Because there are people who have recovered by literally "pushing" their way out, one user posted his story in the recovery section. I used to be able to bench press 245 pounds. That was two years ago and those days are long gone, but I see it as a goal I can still work hard to achieve.

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 03:48 PM

edit, double post.

Edited by ElectricRelaxation, 25 August 2010 - 03:50 PM.


#30 Magrathea

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 05:39 PM

Jesus, twenty years, thats a long time to live (and a lot of acceptance). Thank you for staying strong and not doing anything drastic.


It makes it sound like i was far more brave than i actually was in reality. A very old person was asked what the secret of her longevity was; she replied, "keep breathing...in...out". That's pretty well what i did for twenty years - left foot - right foot - left foot. It’s not as if you have much choice, i sure wasn't going to commit suicide and leave anyone i loved with any whisp of a suspicion at all that anything was in any way their fault (this thought brought tears to my eyes often and my reaction proved to myself that i hadn’t somehow turned into a sociopath). Also, i was blessed with not being afflicted with the panicky side of the disorder which many people on this board describe vividly. I think i had three or four panic attacks during this period, usually when i woke up in the middle of the night. They were indescribably unpleasant, I don't think i would have survived a few weeks of that I’m just not strong enough. For me it was twenty years of feeling irretrievably and relentlessly, totally stone cold dead in a dead universe which was far too bright, jarring, confusing and looked and felt unreal to me.

I don't know, maybe its because I had been smoking for a good year before I ever got a DP panic attack, I've always used exercise as a way to free myself of stress and anxiety, so it's possible my body and brain allowed me to be more at rest with my self and aided in recovering. Maybe its because I'm young and could easily bounce back. Like I said before some people who got it from weed have recovered on their own in weeks or months.


It's funny how people describe and feel things differently. For me i would say that the problem was that my self was way, way, way to much at rest . What i felt like i needed was a lightening-bolt to the temples to WAKE ME UP!. I don't get the thoughts reverberating around my skull, i just get no feeling feedback from my experiences (this is no longer true for me) and limited access to my ability to think, visualise

I doubt it is down to age, i became aflicted with dp when i was about 23-24; which is not old :P

I am now waking up; the last time i saw reality normally the eighties had just drawn to a close lol

Too much self checking is just a waste of time, time that you could be using having fun, socializing, or drinking Posted Image.


bah humbug... Up until a few mnonths ago the word 'fun' had no experiencial meaning for me. I did not have fun, i did not socialise; i mimiced socialising and having fun, which is actually no fun at all, it's quite hard work and made me feel even worse.

By the way, when you were keeping up with fitness, were you weight training? Because there are people who have recovered by literally "pushing" their way out, one user posted his story in the recovery section. I used to be able to bench press 245 pounds. That was two years ago and those days are long gone, but I see it as a goal I can still work hard to achieve.


No - I ran and did push ups, so maybe weight training could have helped me? :blink: ..i have my doubts, but can't be sure

I think keeping fit is a superb thing to do for someone who has dp, because the condition is no handicap at all. In fact, i found it easier to run because i knew damn well, there is no way i could be socialising or having fun!

Thanks for the chat here :)

#31 Dyna

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 06:08 PM

I realy enjoye this discussion from both parties. I relate most to Margaretha. OIn your opinion Margaretha, why do you did you ar erecovering now, as you say 'While recovering i have been constantly and obsessively self checking and watching for improvements, I presently have an awful diet and engage in little exercise and i am getting better by leaps and bound'

What do you think has made the difference? I toohave had DP for a long time (17 years). I would appreciate your commnts. Thanks, Dyna

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 07:02 PM

I could be wrong, because my DP was caused by a panic attack and not weed, but I have a small theory. The weed caused the panic attack, and Dp was a result, theirs no argument their. But I know plenty of people, myself included, that have had panic attacks while smoking weed, and DP wasnt the result. Just like panic attacks without weed,not all of them cause DP.
My theory is, it wasnt the weed that caused dp, it was the panic attack that caused dp, and weed just caused the panic attack just like a million other factors could have caused the panic attack, its just easier to get while high. I think theirs some kind of 'hidden factor' here that causes dp, something between that and the panic attack.


I agree. My DP came from a weed-induced panic attack. It was not the weed that directly caused the dp, it was the panic attack. Of course, marijuana was the root cause but that is largely how the drug affects an individuals brain. Im very prone to anxiety so thinking about a concept like infinity while high? Scary stuff when you cant shake it.

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 12:50 AM

We could debate about DP and weed forever. Let's just focus on recovering. I've been on a healthy diet and exercising 1-2 hours a day for almost a week now. I have noticed positive benefits.

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 06:47 PM

We could debate about DP and weed forever. Let's just focus on recovering. I've been on a healthy diet and exercising 1-2 hours a day for almost a week now. I have noticed positive benefits.


I agree entirely.

DP can be manifested from many things, and in some cases it could be drugs (weed, pcp, Ex etc etc etc) and some other cases it can be caused from stopping the dosage of prescription drugs(my friend gets dp when he stop taking ADD medication).

If anything debates end up causing anxiety if they get heated, and anxiety can cause bad effects of dp.




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