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#13 Pandaemonium

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Posted 25 December 2020 - 09:27 PM

I don't actively try to think about my DPDR, however there's no denying it. I don't know if that's the same as focusing on it, because i notice myself just going about as i usually do but the overwhelmingness of my DPDR just rears its ugly head every second of every day. I've decided to make an account on here for that reason, maybe i can relate to some people and maybe 'not focusing' on it doesn't make it better or worse.



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Posted 26 December 2020 - 09:34 AM

I don't actively try to think about my DPDR, however there's no denying it. I don't know if that's the same as focusing on it, because i notice myself just going about as i usually do but the overwhelmingness of my DPDR just rears its ugly head every second of every day. I've decided to make an account on here for that reason, maybe i can relate to some people and maybe 'not focusing' on it doesn't make it better or worse.

Some people get helped by not focusing on it. Others, like me, needs to do the opposite. I have always pushed away every bad and negative feeling and my way out of this is learning to accept them, that include DpDr. Welcome. Hope you find info in here that helps you. :)



#15 Pandaemonium

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Posted 26 December 2020 - 06:43 PM

Some people get helped by not focusing on it. Others, like me, needs to do the opposite. I have always pushed away every bad and negative feeling and my way out of this is learning to accept them, that include DpDr. Welcome. Hope you find info in here that helps you. smile.png

precisely, maybe just rejecting these thoughts and how we process them is wrong. I honestly am not sure. With certain buddhist practices, they become aware of them 'passively', let them come and then drift by. However, i must say that for me, it's not the anxious thoughts that worries me more, it's the overwhelming experience of feeling... drugged, or that of an out of body experience you have when you feel incredibly drunk and are peering over the toilet taking a piss at a bar. For me, that is the case every waking second, except i can walk fine and seem relatively normal to people. I don't have particular issue with balance, which you would imagine someone like me going fucking coo coo at this shit. It is almost like i am not even here. My consciousness is hanging by a thread. Do i even exist? don't know.



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Posted 26 December 2020 - 07:15 PM

I don't actively try to think about my DPDR, however there's no denying it. I don't know if that's the same as focusing on it, because i notice myself just going about as i usually do but the overwhelmingness of my DPDR just rears its ugly head every second of every day. I've decided to make an account on here for that reason, maybe i can relate to some people and maybe 'not focusing' on it doesn't make it better or worse.

 

I completely understand. I've been on this forum since I was 14 and I've adopted the strategy of not thinking about it, but it's always there. I'm on here on and off but the DPDR hasn't gone away. I'm almost 20 and I'm pretty sure there's no end to this because it's my fault I have my DPDR in the first place. It makes me scared but at the same time, I don't care.



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Posted 26 December 2020 - 08:11 PM

I completely understand. I've been on this forum since I was 14 and I've adopted the strategy of not thinking about it, but it's always there. I'm on here on and off but the DPDR hasn't gone away. I'm almost 20 and I'm pretty sure there's no end to this because it's my fault I have my DPDR in the first place. It makes me scared but at the same time, I don't care.


if you dont mind, what do you mean with „its my fault“. and are you from germany? because your nickname is the german word for dissociation.

#18 dissoziation

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Posted 26 December 2020 - 08:24 PM

if you dont mind, what do you mean with „its my fault“. and are you from germany? because your nickname is the german word for dissociation.

 

The way I got my DPDR is because I intentionally separated myself from my emotions and in turn, got DPDR. I'm not from Germany, but I am of German descent and was studying German when I made my account!



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Posted 26 December 2020 - 08:44 PM

I completely understand. I've been on this forum since I was 14 and I've adopted the strategy of not thinking about it, but it's always there. I'm on here on and off but the DPDR hasn't gone away. I'm almost 20 and I'm pretty sure there's no end to this because it's my fault I have my DPDR in the first place. It makes me scared but at the same time, I don't care.

I also don't think about it. I've been told to ignore it but it's still here anyway, after all this time.. so i ask myself am i doing the wrong thing in just acting like nothing is wrong. You would think whatever was wrong would sort itself out naturally. In my opinion, trying to ignore it might even have helped to make my symptoms worse, because i might be repeating the same bad habits and mistakes i made to initially trigger it in the first place. Maybe negative self-talk? I do it quite a bit. Like, i have a dark sense of humor too which was said to be a bad thing.. but is this enough to warrant my symptoms 3 years later? Not sure. I think by being aware of my DPDR and reminding myself to try to heal. I've been getting into meditation lately and breathing techniques, becomes more self aware and present rather than going about my days unconsciously and without change!



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Posted 26 December 2020 - 08:55 PM

I for sure believe that “not thinking about it” just makes the symptoms a lot worse for many people experiencing dpdr. Especially if it’s induced by anxiety. It’s like, I wouldn’t normally treat my anxiety by ignoring it that’ll just obviously not work, so that’s not something I would do with the dpdr either. Any other anxiety condition would be treated by things like journaling, breathing exercising, good diet etc. So why would dpdr be treated by “ignoring” it? Personally I love to journal whenever I feel like it to get a clear idea of what I’m feeling, and to just get out all of my bad thoughts (or good for that matter). Also giving myself a chance to walk away from a tough situation and breathe for a few seconds. To me at least it hasn’t gone better when I just keep on going and going even when I obviously feel very dissociated. It’s all about accepting the weird feelings but putting them aside at times to be able to live life.

#21 dissoziation

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Posted 26 December 2020 - 09:02 PM

I also don't think about it. I've been told to ignore it but it's still here anyway, after all this time.. so i ask myself am i doing the wrong thing in just acting like nothing is wrong. You would think whatever was wrong would sort itself out naturally. In my opinion, trying to ignore it might even have helped to make my symptoms worse, because i might be repeating the same bad habits and mistakes i made to initially trigger it in the first place. Maybe negative self-talk? I do it quite a bit. Like, i have a dark sense of humor too which was said to be a bad thing.. but is this enough to warrant my symptoms 3 years later? Not sure. I think by being aware of my DPDR and reminding myself to try to heal. I've been getting into meditation lately and breathing techniques, becomes more self aware and present rather than going about my days unconsciously and without change!

 

I'm not sure what to think because in a way, ignoring it has helped with the severity, but it would definitely improve my life a lot if I could be completely recovered simply by ignoring it. I have heard that meditation and breathing techniques can be good for DPDR, and I've had them both recommended for my anxiety, but I feel like it's going to take a while before I fully implement those both into my life since I'm still stubborn about coping mechanisms.



#22 leminaseri

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Posted 26 December 2020 - 09:04 PM

The way I got my DPDR is because I intentionally separated myself from my emotions and in turn, got DPDR. I'm not from Germany, but I am of German descent and was studying German when I made my account!


its similar to my experience. can i write you a pm?

#23 dissoziation

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Posted 26 December 2020 - 09:15 PM

its similar to my experience. can i write you a pm?

 

Of course!



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Posted 03 January 2021 - 08:04 AM

well, all people doesnt work the same as you, as well. and you are speaking also, only for yourself. maybe someone will read this, who needs to go off, of this forum to recover. so why do you say to someone, what they have to do? this forum is not only for you. if you think this doesnt applie to you, then make your own opinion. but do not „say what to do“. this is not a private conversation between you and freeze. its for everybody here.


He is precisely saying that all paths can be different and that one cannot push his personal path onto others.

And my history is in agreement with this. When I discovered that what I had was called DPDR, it was like a double edged sword. I had moments with less symptoms and moments with more symptoms as I was obsessing on them. I had the same effect when I was reading about people's struggles and symptoms online. Then I put it on the side for several years and did not read anything about it online for all that time and my symptoms remained constant. Now i have been look at this forum for some months and I come here regularly because I get inspired by some posts or find interesting information. And my symptoms did not worsen a single bit. I am not looking at symptoms anxiously anymore, i actually tend to skip the parts of posts that are only about symptoms as I don't get much from them usually. I am not anxious that my symptoms may stay forever as I already know they might and got relatively used to that idea. Reading about DPDR online doesn't do anything bad for me. This is my experience. I understand that it can be different for other people as it was the same for me for some time. So people should not necessarily follow my path, people should also not necessarily go away from this forum, but it is certainly interesting to hear about different experiences. What is not interesting, I agree with this, is to push ones path onto others and say "i did this or that, so trust me this is the true path you should follow".




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